lowerline Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 In Meckwell Precision the rebids after 1♦-2♣ are 2♥ = 11-13 balanced2♠ = 4+crd ♣-support and a shortness2NT = 4441 min3NT = 4441 max I have not been able to find out the meaning of the other rebids. Can someone fill in the gaps? I am also interested in how the bidding continues after 1♦-2♣-2♥ and 1♦-2♣-2♠. What do other Precision players in this situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Presumably, 1♦ 2♣2♦ = min 5+ diamonds. May have a major, since pard will rebid 2M with a game-force in clubs/major.3♣ = club raise, no shortness? Probably forcing up to 4♣.3♦ = 1-suiter, max hand.3M = depends on how meckwell bid 65s with ♦/M. Else it might be some super max 6-4. Just a guess, of course. Not sure if I like their 2♠ bid, but the 2♥ bid definitely is a good idea. (Too bad it isn't natural, but oh well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I can't tell you what they play, but this scheme is actually very similar to what I play, albeit not in a Precision base. (We play 2S as a game forcing club raise and 3C as non-forcing, but that isn't necessary in a strong club system). Exact continuations will depend on how far 2C is forcing and the rest of the system. We play it as non-game forcing (in fact responder can pass over 2D). Continuations will also depend on how 1D - 3C is played, and how many diamonds opener has shown. After 1D - 2C - 2H, a fairly simply set of continuations are: - 2S neutral game forcing relay- 2NT natural, non-forcing- 3C natural (if 1D - 3C is invitational, this is then forcing with good clubs)- 3D natural, invitational with diamonds (again depends on rest of system)- 3H/3S natural, game forcing Our continuations over the 2S relay are natural, but in the context of a system where opener hasn't shown diamonds, you could play ..... 2NT no diamond suit .......3C 3-card support, 4 diamonds.......3D 5 diamonds (1D - 2C - 2D is then unbalanced).......3H 4-4 in the reds.......3S 4-4 in the pointeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I can't tell you what they play, but this scheme is actually very similar to what I play, albeit not in a Precision base. (We play 2S as a game forcing club raise and 3C as non-forcing, but that isn't necessary in a strong club system). Exact continuations will depend on how far 2C is forcing and the rest of the system. We play it as non-game forcing (in fact responder can pass over 2D). Continuations will also depend on how 1D - 3C is played, and how many diamonds opener has shown. After 1D - 2C - 2H, a fairly simply set of continuations are: - 2S neutral game forcing relay- 2NT natural, non-forcing- 3C natural (if 1D - 3C is invitational, this is then forcing with good clubs)- 3D natural, invitational with diamonds (again depends on rest of system)- 3H/3S natural, game forcing Our continuations over the 2S relay are natural, but in the context of a system where opener hasn't shown diamonds, you could play ..... 2NT no diamond suit .......3C 3-card support, 4 diamonds.......3D 5 diamonds (1D - 2C - 2D is then unbalanced).......3H 4-4 in the reds.......3S 4-4 in the pointeds2♣ shows at least 10hcp and a 5crd suit. I consider the bidding forcing until 2NT.1♦ - 3♣ is a limit with a 4crd ♦ and at least a decent 5crd ♣.The 1♦ opening always shows at least two ♦. Besides the hands that "natural" bidders open 1♦ with, 1♦ is also opened with all 11-13 balanced hands and with all 3-suiters not short in ♦ (also those with longer ♣). A hand with 6♣ is opened 2♣ and a 3-suiter short in ♦ is opened 2♥. After 1♦-2♣-2♥:Is 2NT a signoff? Does 2♠ include a hand that wants to invite to 3NT (opener bids 2NT with a minimum)? With what type of GF hands do you bid 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiskew Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 After 1♦-2♣-2♥ Meckwell play the following: 2♠ Transfer to 2NT (either to right side 3NT or to look for slam fit)2NT 6+♣, FG3♣ 6+♣, NF3♦ 6♣+4♥3♥ 6♣+4♠3NT Signoff There is no need to play in 2NT after 1♦-2♣-2♥: Meckwell play 1♦-2NT as Bal 11-12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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