How to bid this hand?

[dosxtres]

Hi,

 

How South can bid this hand?

 

[hv=d=n&v=n&n=s94hq73dk9cakt742&s=sajthak54da84cj93]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

The bidding was

 

1♣ (1♦) x p

2♣ p ?

 

Playing 2/1, but i think it would be the same in sayc.

Do i have any available bid to support clubs and forcing?

Can south set up a GF auction with 2♥? is a reverse or a weak hand with 4♠ and 5♥?

 

Ty all

[awm]

It's fairly standard (I think in 2/1 also) that 1♣-(1♦)-X shows both majors. With the given hand I would bid 1♥ (showing 4+♥ and forcing).

 

After the 2♣ rebid, south pretty clearly wants to drive towards slam in clubs. The quick tricks (aces and ace-king combos) in side suits argue for a slam try rather than bidding 3NT. I think 4♣ should be 100% forcing here -- with an invitational raise I would bid 3♣ and with a weak hand I would normally pass. If partner seems likely to pass 4♣, then I'll just blast to keycard.

[pclayton]

Its a minority view that double shows a 4 card major. Most play (as Adam indicates) that double promises 4-4. I too would bid 1♥ and then cue over 2♣. My guess is that pard rebids 2N. I might blast, but I'd probably just cue 3♠ and see what that gets me.

[Gerben42]

Same here. 1♥ showing BOTH majors. For more on this see for example "Double!" by Mike Lawrence. Now that I have misrepresented my hand I will now bid 4NT - too much for 3NT not enough for 6.

 

With a pickup partner he might take 4♣ as invitational or something even more horrible.

[foo]

North Deals:

♠94♥Q73♦K9♣AKT742

 

♠AJT♥AK54♦A84♣J93

 

1C-(1D)-1H;2C-2D!; {after all, isn't your hand worth a cuebid of Their suit?}

 

Opener will probably now bid 2N since they have a minimum w/ D's stopped.

 

Now Responder can drive the auction to slam in C's or NT.

{and as an added bonus, the hand that dove into Our auction is on Opening lead and very likely to blow up a trick for the defense and/or tell Declarer something important about the hand when they lead}

[dosxtres]

Thanks all.

[P_Marlowe]

As already noted, a neg. dbl. in this seq.

usually shows 4-4 in the mayors, ... there

players who play it different.

 

The only forcing bid you have is 2D,

it is unclear, if 2d already forces to game

or if it could still be inv.+

 

If GF => over 2NT which shows a diaomond

stopper, you can bid 3C, opener will bid 3NT

to show a min. opener, responder should pass.

 

IF inv.+ => Opener will bid 2NT showing min.

and a stopper and you should simply raise to

3NT or if you really want raise to 4NT.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe