the hog Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Early this week, pd and I bid the following to 6C. AQTxxKxxxK9xx KAxxAKQxA8xxx This was MP and 6N stole the bickies. The problem was that I was unable to read a 3H bid by pd as showing the K or a singleton. I was trying to figure out some method for distiguishing the difference, when I came across the following RKCB variant as played by some Polish pairs. My questions are: Has anyone here played this?Even if you haven't, can anyone see obvious advs/disadvs with this method? Step responses 0-3 KC1-4 KC2 KC + 0-3 Kings2 KC + 1-4 Kings2 KC + 2 Kings After these the next step asks for the trump Q Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 First a remark: if you play RKC, you don't have 4 kings left, only 3. So it should be something like:0/31/42/5 + 0/3 kings2/5 + 1 king2/5 + 2 kings This actually seems like a version of roman blackwood (that I play when no trump is set), but with keycards in stead of aces... The difference is that showing kings with roman blackwood is 40/1/23 and there are 4 kings. This RKCB is nice, but I guess it's purpose isn't usefull enough for every slam ambition in a suit. Imo the normal RKCB is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenze Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Early this week, pd and I bid the following to 6C. AQTxxKxxxK9xx KAxxAKQxA8xxx This was MP and 6N stole the bickies. The problem was that I was unable to read a 3H bid by pd as showing the K or a singleton. I was trying to figure out some method for distiguishing the difference, when I came across the following RKCB variant as played by some Polish pairs. My questions are: Has anyone here played this?Even if you haven't, can anyone see obvious advs/disadvs with this method? Step responses 0-3 KC1-4 KC2 KC + 0-3 Kings2 KC + 1-4 Kings2 KC + 2 Kings After these the next step asks for the trump Q Comments? Actually this makes a lot of sense, but as Free points out, there are only 3 Kings left. New thought!! What if you counted the trump Q as a king. Now there would be four kings left and you would no longer need the trump Q ask. Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Hi Ron! Try to play 4NT as even KC, skip it with odd KC. This is best way in my opinion, same in competition. Remaining bids below 5 of trump are used for establising Q trump or grand. Example: AQJ10xxxx Kxxxx Axx QJxxx AKQxx 4SP 5CL(1)5DI(2) 5HE(3)6SP(4) 1. cue, odd KC, here 3 ofcourse2. cue, KC enough for slam3. No Q trump or cue for grand4. Q trump, KC not enough for grand Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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