pigpenz Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 I was wondering if it would be possible for TD's to have an option to set up GIB tournaments on the Free Days....it might be nice to see either an individual where all players play with 3 gibs or 2 players play with a gib, where say real players would all sit say South and West. Just an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Is is an excellent idea, and the core of the 'money bridge tournaments' we'll be seeing any day now. Right now, the gibs in MB and in MB Tourneys run on our bbo machines. This makes sure they all have the same computational power, more or less. I expect to offer at least some free MB Tourneys alongside the pay ones. The problems for us are that the GIBs chew through machines like popcorn, and we only have so many machines. We keep increasing them but ... initially I will probably have to severely limit the size of the free GIB tourneys (think max 10 humans, something like that). Someday, with some programming help from Fred, I hope to be able to use the GIBs on your PC to do supply robot-power and then the sky's the limit for free GIB tourneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 yes I had a feeling that the Bots would be a heavy load on the server also....so the Tournaments would need to be small but it might be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 The problems for us are that the GIBs chew through machines like popcorn, and we only have so many machines.Being a technical person I'm quite curious how many resources are needed at the moment. Which machines are you using, how many do you need per MB table and how does your load balancing work (roughly)? Someday, with some programming help from Fred, I hope to be able to use the GIBs on your PC to do supply robot-power and then the sky's the limit for free GIB tourneys.From a technical perspective, this could be very interesting. A problem that I'm seeing will be the vast difference in computational power on the client machines. I guess quite a lot of BBO's users are using really old machines. GIB takes his time even on high end CPUs (like Athlon64 3000+ or comparable). --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 I select randomly from a pool of machines capable of running GIB each time i need a gib. One bot per table. A machine can run multiple bots, but more than two and they all slow down, worse if the robots are set to slower speeds Not that this is a a huge problem over time. i try to allow for no more than somewhere between 5-10 bots per machine. I have no idea (yet) what the sweet spot is. We're using dual xeons, i think. The bots dont need much memory and they dont touch the disk much. We have maybe 4 machines for MB and another 5 coming on board as we speak, to prepare for the first mb tourneys I hunted around for a commercial grid that rented cpu cycles w/o any luck. Sun has one but they're pricey and not really meant for small jobs like gib playing one hand. If & when we looked at the customer grid (i'm only thinking out loud) i dont think machine cpu quality would be that much of an issue. Maybe we'd only use cpus of a certain speed or maybe we'd give slower gibs more time, who knows ? I'm not holding my breath for any of this but it would be fun to do, I think. Assuming we can get permission from the users, we're not restricted to the players in the tourney. So if we can think of things to do we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 so on the Free Days what is the maximum number of GIB bots that have ever been in use at one time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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