hrothgar Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 The Hog and I had a less then auspicious outing in tonight's Abalucy tournament. However, the following hand might be interesting. You hold the following VERY nice hand 2AKJ8AJ83AKQ6 When your slightly unbalanced partner opens 4S in first seat.What is the best way to intelligently investigate slam? Answers tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Richard didn't say, but the 4-Spade opener was first seat vulnerable verus non-vul at imps. If that is at all relevant for your bidding decision. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Hello All :) My simple minded approach would be to say 4nt Blackwood asking for Aces ... if the answer comes back 5c then can bail out in 5s...if it comes back 5d then chance 6s as you have likely only 4 spade cards outstanding and if they are 2:2 they will fall in 2nd round? Partners likely distribution 8,3,2,0 - 8,2,2,1 so communication between both hands likely by ruffing ? Look forward to seeing the correct answer! John :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badderzboy Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 If we're vunerable my ptr should be looking for two winners then my spades should be pretty robust and 10+pts and 7/8+ of them (in ACOL) so I would use RKCB to find out the composition of the spades... We have three key cards so...5C 0 keycards - rebid 5S no chance of more... 5D 1 Keycard - Ptr should have queen for opening but has he the DK? bid 5NT ask for kings if yes then 6NT if no drat 6S and plan to void ptr's D's before starting on Spades... 5H 2 without Q - bid 5NT ask for DK if yes then 6NT if no drat 6S and and plan to void ptr's D's before starting on Spades... as I should get 6S/3C/2H/2D discarding a winner somewhere along way to SQ unless she drops 5S 2 with Queen - Where's that 7NT card at counting 7/8S, 3H,1D,2C only prob is 4-0 split with Ptrs LHO but how likely is that... I tend to be a bit of a gambler but is there a better way or system? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 4NT as RKCB. On 5C -> 5SOn 5D -> 6SOn 5H -> 6SOn 5S -> 7S (no 7NT on IMPs cause p could theoretically have [AKQXxx x xxx xxx], maybe :)) Poky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 i think i'd just bid 6S :)... pard's 4S should show a solid suit vulnerable and first hand (given my cards).. i'd rather have the lead coming to me, but can't have everything.. if pard opened 3S it might go differently, but i think 6 would always be in the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 5c, if he can't bid 5d then I just settle for 5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 I agree with what Ron (BBO knick The_Hog) bid with this hand (I was kibitizing). But without giving the answer, here is a question to answer that might affect your bid. What do you play an opening bid of 3NT as? Gambling with a solid suit? If so, can that solid suit be a major? How does such a consideration affect your bid? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 For what its worth: A 3NT opening shows a bad 4 level preempt in either minor4C would show a good 4 level preempt in Hearts4D would show a good 4 level preempt in Spades The main inference available is that opener does NOT have a "good" 4 level preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 I'll try for slam, but I'll be carefull. I won't go to 6S with 1 top honour, with AQ I'll go for 6S, AK same thing. You have 6 tricks in your hand, and with this vulnerability and playing imps, i suspect partner has at least a 7-card S. A 3-2 break most probable. I guess 4NT RKC S... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 At our table, my partner decided to focus on the quality of my Spade suit. The Hog held 6 "sure" tricks in hand, so he needed to understand how many spade tricks that I could provide. Therefore, he decided to raise my 4S opening to 5S. Conventionally, this bid asks me how many trump losers I have in a spade contract. In response: Pass would shows 2 or more trump losersSix Spades would show one trump loserA cue bid would show second round control of the side with no trump losers. In this case, I had preempted on KQJT986xxJTxx and we reached a nice 6S contract. Admittedly, most of the rest of the field reached the same contract, however, some of the other auctions seemed somewhat unconvincing. Then again, we came in dead last, so what do I know. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 5S is a nice bid, given that conventional treatment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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