Bidding problem

[dogsbreath]

hi ..

 

[hv=d=w&v=n&s=sak84ha3d98ckj1097]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

1: You open 1C 4D from LHO P P ... your bid

 

2: Same hand same sequence, but LONG pause from partener after 4D .. can you still justify whatever action you took in part 1 ?

 

Rgds Dog

[joshs]

1. Pass

2. Yes :)

[P_Marlowe]

Pass, wtp?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[zasanya]

1.Pass

2.Pass with alacrity for if I take any other action and if turns out to be favourable ops are going to holler for TD and most if not all TDs I know will adjust score in ops favour after a reprimand to us!

[nickf]

hi ..

 

   

Dealer: West Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ AK84 ♥ A3 ♦ 98 ♣ KJ1097

 

1: You open 1C  4D from LHO  P  P  ... your bid 

 

2:  Same hand same sequence, but LONG pause from partener after 4D .. can you still justify whatever action you took in part 1 ?

 

Rgds Dog

Posts like this scare the hell out of me.

 

nickf

sydney

[hotShot]

1. dbl

2. No, it's pass now.

[whereagles]

1. Pass.

2. Hesitation suggests bidding, so any action on this hand gets rolled back into pass.

[inquiry]

pass

 

Define long hesitation. 4♦ was a jump overcall and partner is required to take a 10 second period to reflect on his bid. Was it 12 to 14 seconds? No bid deal. Was it 20 seconds? Maybe now this could result in some sanction if you act. What would partner's double show? Penalty? What would your double show, takeout? All these might factor into a ruling should you act. After a long hesitation (let's say 20 seconds or more) you could risk a director ruling against you.

[luis]

4♠

I don't think this is as trivial as the answers suggest.

Let's see it without the UI problem, the interesting thing is that 4d is always revealing because when a player with a long suit bypasses 3NT facing an unpassed hand it is because he is really broken with many diamonds and shape.

If your pd has something like

 

Qxxx

xxx

Axx

xxx

 

Is he supossed to bid something over 4♦ ? I think you have a chance in 4♠ every time your pd has 4 cards in the suit.

 

What would have happened if LHO was the dealer and he opened 4♦ pass pass to you? What do you reopen ? Double? 5♣ ? That would be hell of a problem, you would probably double planning to correct 4♥ to 4♠ showing black suits, would you? Now that you have already opened 1♣ I think it is logical to expect pd has an average 7HCP hand, so without any hesitation I bid here 4♠ and take my chances.

 

With the hesitation I think that seeing other posters comments pass is a LA so I pass and then beat pd up. :-)

 

Luis

[Codo]

1.As often, Luis thoughts are great and helpful. So, I think 4 Spade is a nice idea, but I had been too much chicken to make this bid at the table.

Maybe now, I will bid so strong with these hands.

 

2. Now pass is clear cut. Any other bid will surely result in a penalty if the bid was successful.

[whereagles]

Qxxx

xxx

Axx

xxx

 

I think you have a chance in 4♠ every time your pd has 4 cards in the suit.

Well.. considering that if LHO doesn't bid it would go

 

1♣ 1♠

3♠ pass

 

I really don't see why we should be bidding 4 here :ph34r:

[Fluffy]

seems like a clear case of UI.

[dogsbreath]

hi

 

Thanks for interesting replies.

 

at the table the 4D overcaller held a rather robust..

♠ -

♥: Kxxx

♦: AKj10xxxx

♣:x

 

opener's partener rather spoiled the hand by making a very long pause over 4D holding....

♠: 109xx

♥: xx

♦: xx

♣: xxxxx

 

Opener subsequently re-opened with a X and the hand was played in 5C :lol:

 

Rgds Dog

[ArcLight]

>opener's partener rather spoiled the hand by making a very long pause over 4D holding....

 

 

Highly unethical.

 

 

>Opener subsequently re-opened with a X and the hand was played in 5C

 

Highly unethical.