hutchau Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=shaqdajtxxxxxckqx]133|100|Scoring: IMPThere seem to be THREE possible opening bids 1DI,2CL or 5DI all of which have flaws so it is a case of finding the least worst bid[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I consider it a clear cut 1♦ opening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 1♦. Sometimes you just have to bid whats in front of your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 1♦. Other bids never came to my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=shaqdajtxxxxxckqx]133|100|Scoring: IMPThere seem to be THREE possible opening bids 1DI,2CL or 5DI all of which have flaws so it is a case of finding the least worst bid[/hv] Well, the flaws in 2♣ and 5♦ are self-evident: I must be missing something: I just don't see the flaws in 1♦ Does that mean that opening 1♦ assures us of an easy auction? No, but that is because we have an unusual hand, not because 1♦ is in any sense a distortion. In other words, the family of hands described by an initial 1♦ call is large and includes this hand-type. One cannot say that about either 2♣ or 5♦, at least not according to methods that this poster is familiar with :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 "Well, the flaws in 2♣ and 5♦ are self-evident: I must be missing something: I just don't see the flaws in 1♦" I agree with 1D but it does seem to have flaws, namely our rebids. It does seem that 2c=2dor2h =3d is less than a flaw,,not perfect just less...... With all that said I still open 1D but ugg what a rebid problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1D, wtp? Marlowe PS: go easy, give yourself the chance to "listen", sometimes this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1♦ is straight-forward. Over 1♠ from partner I rebid 3NT. But it's unlikely that the opps stay silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 With a 3-loser hand I refuse to open anything other than 2♣. After pard's inevitable 2♦, I'll follow-up either with 3♦ + 5♦ if pard knows how to bid, or with a straight 5♦ otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1♦.I count 4 looser and with only 16 HCP i don't think that partner and opps will pass first round so i'll always have the chance to bid again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Let's discuss the different options then. 2♣ - Do yourself and your partner a favour and don't do this. Opening 2♣ requires: DEFENCE! You ain't got it. 5♦ - This may well work and this would be my choice opposite a passed partner. If partner has not passed yet I'd prefer to start lower. 1♦ - Sometimes opening 1 in your longest suit is just the thing. It leaves room for opps but also for partner. If need be you can bid 5♦ next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 2♣ - Do yourself and your partner a favour and don't do this. Opening 2♣ requires: DEFENCE! You ain't got it. This hand has a LOT of defense! It's simply not good enough for 2♣, but that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1 D (Needs more defensive quick tricks than losers to qualify as a 2C opener for me.) When pard can find a bid, 3C sets the GF and you are away to the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimzam Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I mean 1♦ is best. Lets hope opps bid spade. then you have a perfect 4♥ exclusion blackwood rebid. you probably end up in 5,6 or 7♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 opening bid, what is your opening bid in 1st seat Now for something really different. Since you asked (title) what is "your" opening bid, I will tell you mine. I open this 2♦. I play multi-2♦ that include Weak two in either major Strong Balanced hand (excellent upgraded 22 or 23-24 hcp)Acol two in either minor, with 9.5 tricksActually the ♦ suit here just barely is up to the suit requirement. One side advantage of this method is that if I open 2♣ and then rebid either minor it is true game force (since I didn't open 2♦). I will admit that this treatment is far from standard. Not playing this style multi 2♦ the right initial bid is as everyone else has pointed out is 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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