kenrexford Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Interpret this auction: 1S-P-2C-P-3S-P-4D-P-4H-P-4NT-P-5S... What is going on here??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Interpret this auction: 1S-P-2C-P-3S-P-4D-P-4H-P-4NT-P-5S... What is going on here??? Spades have been set as trump...Folks have cuebid someThere has been a blackwood sequence (or some other artificial 4NT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 if 2♣ was GF, 3♠ is self-supporting suit, 4♦/4♥ are cue-bids, 4NT is RKCB for ♠, 5♠ is two key cards and trump queen. Seems a little odd given the bidding only two keycards. so i epect something like AQJT9xx Ax x KQx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhoc3 Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Spades have been set as trump...Folks have cuebid someThere has been a blackwood sequence (or some other artificial 4NT) 4NT looks a little bit... should have made his pard do that. Could have keep cuebiding or bid his own value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civill Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 if 2♣ was GF, 3♠ is self-supporting suit, 4♦/4♥ are cue-bids, 4NT is RKCB for ♠, 5♠ is two key cards and trump queen. Seems a little odd given the bidding only two keycards. so i epect something like AQJT9xx Ax x KQx A slam perhaps be lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Thanks for the responses. I had two questions on this, the second not quite answered yet. I was responder here. The 5S response should have been RKCB, but I held the spade Queen. So, on a muddled auction, I blasted 7NT to right-side the contract, and the finesse worked (I got a diamond lead into Axx on dummy and KJ tight in hand). Not pretty, but effective. The second question is a tad more esoteric. After 3S, 4D seems clearly to establish spades as trumps. But, is that the "right" call with KQxx-xxx-KJ-AKxx? Or, should I have rebid 4C? My thinking was to protect the diamonds. If I cue 4C, I may well hear 4D (actually will), in which case I must bid 4H LTTC, which requires partner to declare any contract (if he bids 4NT). 4D, on the other hand, allows a 4H cue, which I'd take as leghitimate, allowing me to place the contract at 6NT/7NT to protect diamonds. Is this thought: (1) good,(2) arguable, or(3) poor partnership bidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Several comments:(1) Holding KQxx in partner's suit would not be possible with my partners after the 3S rebid.(2) I might bid 4D instead of 4C since that is more unambigously a cue. But if you are certain that 4C is a cue in your partnership, I think you have to bid it, otherwise you are denying a holing as good as AK in clubs and may miss 7 when that is right.(3) I don't understand why you worry about right-siding you diamond tenace when partner can cue-bid ♦A. This is only useful when opponents lead diamond AND the discard on ♦A is useful AND partner has at least 3 diamonds AND he doesn't have the T AND you don't need a ruff. On the other hand, when you cue-bid 4C and partner cannot cue-bid 4D, you know that it is probably right to protect you ♦K by going to 6N.(4) So overall, this seems like bad partnership bidding, but with a partner that rebids 3S missing ♠KQ AND later shows ♠Q when he does not have, who knows what is right?? Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I cannot agree more that holding KQxx brought me great shock. I checked again and again, but the spades were in the right spot. Does this suggest that partner has the missing club queen hidden in with his spades? LOL I also thought about 4D as a "better" cuebid, mostly because the 3S call seemed not to establish a fit in my partner's methods. (Pick-up game, but with a friend.) The theory on right-siding is if partner's cue over 4C would be 4H. Sure, if he cuebids 4D, then perhaps we need hearts protected, justifying a spade contract after all. Funny problem, it seems. But, assume the 4H cue. After RKCB, can I "know" that he holds the heart Ace? Not unless he bypassed 4D, I suppose. So, perhaps 4D was poor partnership bidding after all. I at least feel better that you also saw this auction as absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 1♠= 5+♠ 12+ points2♣= 10+ points, 3+ clubs3♠= I will play in spades, hopefully in the slam level4♦= I have the ace of diamods4♥= I don't lose 2 ♥ tricks4NT= I don't lose 2 ♣ tricks, how many key cards do you have?5♠= I have 2 and the ♠Q. (probably ♠AKQxxxx and ♥KQx). EDIT: ok, you ahd the ♠Q. So the answer is partner has 9♠. EDIT2: you have also the K????, this is incredible. I guess AJ10 9th is possible, but I doubt both opponents would pass all the time. Anyway trust our partner ;). About the cue, 4♦ is very wrong, you should never cue a king where partner can have a singleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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