han Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Last board of a team match, you are ahead of the other table and the difference is likely small. At favorable you deal yourself the title hand and the auction goes: 1C-(p)-1S-(1NT*)2S-(p)-p-(3D*)?? 1NT is alerted as "el sandiche" and 3D as "fishin for x". Needless to say, you are playing against young juniors. Your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I got some extras, so 3♠. Not perfect, but in this situation only pard can double 3♦ and it's unlikely he's strong enough to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 thank goodness 2s shows...4 spades and something less than 15 whcp. I pass now....nothing extra Please note whereagle thinks i have extras!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I pass, and this looks entirely normal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Well, I do have 15, no? If it were xxxxKxxxxAKQx some people would proabably still bid 3♠, so I'm not letting that lone king stop me. Besides, there's nothing against pard having the queen or ace (especially if RHO is a junior.. lol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 We are all young, lets double and have a laugh :P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Well, I do have 15, no? If it were xxxxKxxxxAKQx some people would proabably still bid 3♠, so I'm not letting that lone king stop me. Besides, there's nothing against pard having the queen or ace (especially if RHO is a junior.. lol). I think you have raised the most important question. Is this hand extra or minimum? Whereageles says this is extra in his style...so....otoh...many may not even open this hand so.........for some this is extra for others this not an opening hand. :P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 It's a min if you think in terms of hcp. It's a med if you think in terms of losing trick count :P The brillancy comes when you add the singleton ♦K. Now it's a med in terms of both LTC and hcp!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I pass because I know what to lead agaisnt 3♦ Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Well, I do have 15, no? If it were xxxxKxxxxAKQx some people would proabably still bid 3♠, so I'm not letting that lone king stop me. Besides, there's nothing against pard having the queen or ace (especially if RHO is a junior.. lol). Both this hand and hand with the K:3S for me. Singleton D and probably partner has 5 card S.Could very well be that both 3D and 3S make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Pass quietly. State of the match not my concern. There are some reasons to like my hand. The heart king should be well placed and any spade honors they have will be poorly place for them in front of partner's honors. On the other hand, spades are probably breaking badly (5-0 is probably as kely than 3-2 on this auction) and the diamond King is clearly not pulling its weight. If partner is looking at FIVE spades, he will probably bid 3♠ based upon LOTT, so why not let him look in HIS HAND and see if we have the values to continue the struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Pass seems clear. Partner is there and we have opened the bidding and raised his suit, in a situation in which the raise has to promise 4 cards support. The ♦K is a good defensive card but it adds virtually nothing to the offensive potential of the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caigao Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Yes, I think it's a clear pass. But I dont expect 3D to set 2 or more no matter pd dbl it or not. If pd had dead minimum, 3S is going to be risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Well, I do have 15, no? If it were xxxxKxxxxAKQx some people would proabably still bid 3♠, so I'm not letting that lone king stop me. Besides, there's nothing against pard having the queen or ace (especially if RHO is a junior.. lol). This is completely opposite to my thinking. With ♦x I would be much more likely to bid 3♠ than with ♦K. 3♠ is not about showing extras, it is about competing for the part-score in case both 3♠ and 3♦ make. As Mike explained, ♦K makes it more likely that 3♦ goes down, but doesn't help the likelyhood of 3♠ making as much. The bad trumps also argue for defending, if partner has all the intermediates he may bid 3♠ himself. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Singleton D and probably partner has 5 card S.Could very well be that both 3D and 3S make. If you pass and if partner has 5♠ and is a believer in the law of total tricks, he will bid 3♠ himself most of the time when it is right. Your bidding 3♠ "hoping" he has 5♠ (most of the time), but he can do a funny somthing if you give him a chance.. he can LOOK at his cards and count them to see how many he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 pass I have already bid the hand I have. Bidding in this position again with this hand is begging for whips and pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 that 1N should be a warning to you. If you bid 3S, you will go down for sure. Bidding 3S is very wrong. I would rather dbl than bid 3S. My choice is pass. I expect them to make one overtrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 that 1N should be a warning to you. If you bid 3S, you will go down for sure. Bidding 3S is very wrong. I would rather dbl than bid 3S. My choice is pass. I expect them to make one overtrick. The 1NT is no warning against juniors. It just means it's more likely that the bid was made on QJTxxx and out. I still pass because partner is still there and it's not right for me to make the decision in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I still pass because partner is still there and it's not right for me to make the decision in front of him. Well, I think I have some extra shape/strength that pard might not be expecting, so I don't think bidding 3♠ is disregarding pard. By the way.. 1NT opening anyone? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 State of the match is a concern for me. This hand is ambivalent so judgement is required. The juniors may have stamina and energy on their side, but you have experience and judgement on yours. They will declare daringly and defend accurately so you must get to the right contract. Defending an easy contract will not pay off and going -130 when you can go +140 may cost the match. As much as I am not crazy about the D K in my hand, if I had x and the K was in pard's hand that would be worse. I warily vote for 3S but I will put the card on the table as confidently as I can... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 The juniors may have stamina and energy on their side, but you have experience and judgement on yours. You are wrong on both accounts Peter. These juniors have more experience than I do, but there is nothing wrong with my stamina :). Partner's hand was something like Qxxx Ax Qxx J10xx, both 3S and 3D make and it is unlikely that partner would bid again if you pass. At the other table my hand opened 1NT and they played in 2S making 3. It turns out that you win the match if you bid 3S, but lose if you pass. I'm not claiming that this is relevant, I was genuinely interested in what people would do with my hand and why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 The juniors may have stamina and energy on their side, but you have experience and judgement on yours. You are wrong on both accounts Peter. These juniors have more experience than I do, but there is nothing wrong with my stamina ;). Partner's hand was something like Qxxx Ax Qxx J10xx, both 3S and 3D make and it is unlikely that partner would bid again if you pass. At the other table my hand opened 1NT and they played in 2S making 3. It turns out that you win the match if you bid 3S, but lose if you pass. I'm not claiming that this is relevant, I was genuinely interested in what people would do with my hand and why. So Han, you're younger than you state? :o I wasn't NECESSARILY referring to bridge experience. ;) If you are not experienced then your more than adequate stamina may come from your own self-....awareness :) Jokes aside, the state of the match and Neil Young's philosophy about burning out rather than rusting argues for activity :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Partner's hand was something like Qxxx Ax Qxx J10xx, both 3S and 3D make and it is unlikely that partner would bid again if you pass. At the other table my hand opened 1NT and they played in 2S making 3. It turns out that you win the match if you bid 3S, but lose if you pass. I'm not claiming that this is relevant, I was genuinely interested in what people would do with my hand and why. I would say this shows why pass is correct. Yes, pd has a maximum for his pass. What if he has a min for his 1S bid? Then bidding 3S would be a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I would say this shows why pass is correct. If you said that then I would say you made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Of course pass was correct but just for the opponents. At the table I had passed too, but it had been very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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