2 hands to bid

[mike777]

1) AT6532.....J6....void.....KQ654

 

1H=1S

2D=?

 

Your bid and why?

 

 

2)

63.....AJ9632....AJ3....AK

 

1H=3D(4 CARD LIMIT RAISE)

?

 

Your bid and what is your plan if partner rebids 4H over your next bid?

[Walddk]

1. 2♥. I like hearts better than diamonds. All the signs of misfit. Let's not encourage him further.

2. 3NT. Serious slam try, no spade control.

 

Axx

Kxxx

Kx

xxxx

 

This is what a good partner has for his limit raise! The second part of your question is therefore easy. I will pass 4♥ if partner has no spade control either.

 

Roland

[mikeh]

I am going to post my answers in hidden mode (unless I make an error in writing this :P )

 

 

 

 

1: 3♠, invitational. The partial misfit (the ♥Jx saves it from being a complete misfit) argues against a more aggressive 3♣, which would, in any event, be non-descriptive in that it is artificial in most methods and so really is unhelpful. The hand is too good to give up on with 2♥, and the ♥ support inadequate for 3♥ so we ae left with the least worst bid: 3♠.

 

2: 4♣, hoping to hear 4♦ (which partner should bid with the ♦K and anything at all over a rock-bottom minimum) and then I would have a difficult choice of 4♥ (I made my try, partner) or 5♥ (I like your cue, partner, do you control ♠?). I'd settle for 4♥: I am wrong siding this opposite K♠, and partner is allowed to move over 4♥. BTW, I am assuming that 4♦ is not a last train bid, given the forum we are in, but even if it is, my bid remains unchanged. The post asked about a bid over 4♥ by responder: clearly I am passing, given that I would not force to the 5 level over a more forward going 4♦

 

[inquiry]

1) AT6532.....J6....void.....KQ654

 

1H=1S

2D=?

 

Your bid and why?

 

Who is my partner and do we play riton 2♣. If we play riton, I bid 2♥ and hope we are not too darn high.

 

If we don't play riton, I am much too good for 2♥, expecially at imps. 3♣ is fourth suit forcing, and is totally out of the question, and this hand isn't suited for notrump. So that leaves 2♠ and 3♠. I am going to assume you play 1♥-2♠ as preemptive, so 2♠ here shows some values and long suit (else 2♠ immediately). So I will bid 2♠ if not playing riton (since 2♥ would be a cry of too much weakness).

 

2)

63.....AJ9632....AJ3....AK

 

1H=3D(4 CARD LIMIT RAISE)

?

 

Your bid and what is your plan if partner rebids 4H over your next bid?

 

Once every decade Roland and I agree... this is the time. Serious 3NT, slam interest, no ♠ contrl. I expect partner will bid 4♦ with a spade control (last train) and I will then give blackwood a chance.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

1) you can choose between 2H

and 2S (showing a 6 card suit).

 

I prefer 2S, on the grounds that

the long suit of the weaker hand

should be trump.

 

2) 4C, Cue denying a spade controll,

showing a hand strength 15-17HCP,

more or less what I have got

If partner cant bid 4D / 4S, i.e.

bids 4H, I give up.

3NT is also an option, but over 4H

you should now definitely give up.

 

Marlowe

[Guest Jlall]

1) 2S. I don't like my suit or the misfit nature of the hand enough for a 3S bid, 2N seems misguided. As for 2S vs 2H, I think our most likely games is in spades, and I would rather play spades with equal fits than hearts. As opposed to that, 2S could be completely silly while 2H will always be at least a 7 card fit. We might miss a game. BTW, why would it make a difference if we play ritong or not. If partner has significant extras (enough to bid riton) he will bid over 2 of a major anyways.

 

2) 4C. I think I'm worth one move, will sign off over 4D. I don't understand why "serious 3N" would apply here either. How can we have a non serious slam try after a limit raise? As far as slam tries go, I would say this one is on the weak side anyways.

[joshs]

1. 2♥. I like hearts better than diamonds. All the signs of misfit. Let's not encourage him further.

2. 3NT. Serious slam try, no spade control.

 

Axx

Kxxx

Kx

xxxx

 

This is what a good partner has for his limit raise! The second part of your question is therefore easy. I will pass 4♥ if partner has no spade control either.

 

Roland

Where I come from 3S asks shortage, and 3N is a spade cue-bid (or long suit slam try, depending on style).

 

Do people seriously play Serious 3N opposite a hand with a 2 point range in value? What is a non-serious try, cue bid if you have exactly 11 but not if you have exactly 10???? Hmm.

[cherdano]

1) 2S. I don't like my suit or the misfit nature of the hand enough for a 3S bid, 2N seems misguided. As for 2S vs 2H, I think our most likely games is in spades, and I would rather play spades with equal fits than hearts. As opposed to that, 2S could be completely silly while 2H will always be at least a 7 card fit. We might miss a game. BTW, why would it make a difference if we play ritong or not. If partner has significant extras (enough to bid riton) he will bid over 2 of a major anyways.

I think you give the answer yourself. If we play riton, game is VERY unlikely, so we can make the safer bid: 2♥. (Also, some hands may be good enough for riton, but not good enough for a rebid. I would riton with a nice 15-count, and most 16 counts.)

 

Arend

[joshs]

1) AT6532.....J6....void.....KQ654

 

1H=1S

2D=?

 

Your bid and why?

 

 

2)

63.....AJ9632....AJ3....AK

 

1H=3D(4 CARD LIMIT RAISE)

?

 

Your bid and what is your plan if partner rebids 4H over your next bid?

Unless 2S implies more values than 2H would have, I am bidding a whimpy 2H. I know we have a 7 card heart fit, I know I have a ruffing value, and I know my space ace will be good in a heart contract. I don't know if partner's heart values will be good in a spade contract.

Now if bidding 1S then 2S actually showed a reasonable hand (for instance if 2S over 1H was 3-6). I would try 2S to, as jessie jackson would say, keep game hopes alive.

This is a hard hand. I would expect votes all over the place in the MSC.

 

On the second hand, I am just bidding 4H. Yes partner might have the correct mesh (HK, No HQ, AND Spade AK or SA and CQ, or SA and Kx of diamonds). But anytime partner has the trump KQ, we will not have slam since thats wasted values. I don't think there is any way to discover how good the mesh is below game.

[ArcLight]

>1) AT6532.....J6....void.....KQ654

>1H=1S

>2D=?

 

2♥

Spades are terrible, dont want them a strump with a 6-1 split. Void in pards first suit is not a good thing. Be happy for the heart J.

We may miss game, more likely we go down in game. Settle for the plus. Maybe you will get lucky and the opps will be those hyper aggressive types that insist on declaring every hand, and will go for 800.

 

 

>2)63.....AJ9632....AJ3....AK

>1H=3D(4 CARD LIMIT RAISE)

 

It wouldn't take much to make slam. And slam could easily be off.

Too bad there is no way to find out about the ace of spades.

 

You could always bid 3NT Mathe Asking bid, where responder bids a stiff. Of course no one uses that anymore.

 

Is this a pick up game, does pard bid Kings and Aces, or just Aces the first time around? Thats a sure way to go down in slam.

 

4♣ - Cue bid the Ace of ♣. Pard can evaluate his hand, with an eye towards a spade control, he may bid the ♦ king.

 

 

>Your bid and what is your plan if partner rebids 4H over your next bid?

 

No Dime K? Or perhaps its a pick up partnership that didnt discuss multi cues.

 

I'll sign off. Slam or grand slam can make. They can also go down opposite a 7HCP Limit raise with a stiff club.

[luis]

1) 2♠ natural and healthy. I don't want to support hearts with a bad doubleton when I have 6 spades. Why would I want to do such a thing?

 

2) 4♣ automatic, can't see the problem. Problem? Problem where are you?

 

Luis

[Walddk]

1) 2♠ natural and healthy. I don't want to support hearts with a bad doubleton

Support?? Since when is giving preference the same as support, Luis? It's almost always a doubleton on this auction.

 

Roland

[luis]

1) 2♠ natural and healthy. I don't want to support hearts with a bad doubleton

Support?? Since when is giving preference the same as support, Luis? It's almost always a doubleton on this auction.

 

Roland

Words....

Is "I don't want to give preference to hearts with 6 spades" better for you?

 

Luis

[joker_gib]

1) 2♠ natural and healthy. I don't want to support hearts with a bad doubleton when I have 6 spades. Why would I want to do such a thing?

 

2) 4♣ automatic, can't see the problem. Problem? Problem where are you?

 

Luis

Same as Luis

 

Alain

[Echognome]

1. 4♦ splinter.

 

2. 3♠ splinter.

 

 

For my real answers:

 

1. 2S, although I think 2H is begrudgingly close.

2. 4C, cuebid and slam try. I bid 4H over 4D and pass 4H.