Redouble trouble

[Gerben42]

MP, None vuln.

 

3♥ Dbl Rdbl ?

 

♠xx

♥xx

♦xxxxx

♣AQxx

 

BTW what are your agreements on these auctions:

 

1♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass (easy one)

1NT** Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♦* Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♥** Dbl Rdbl Pass

3♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

* Multi

** weak

 

Perhaps these could be sequences for the BBO Advanced FD file also :P

[Finch]

4D. What I would have bid without the redouble.

 

My general agreement is that passing a redouble is to play.

I have an exception for 1H x xx when I play pass as neutral, but

2H x xx P and

3H x xx P and

2D (multi or not) x xx P

are all to play

 

After 1NT x xx, I have the agreement with one partner that 4th hand MUST pass, and the doubler can then decide whether to remove or not, on the assumption that 4th hand has nothing. It's quite a common psychic redouble position at matchpoints.

[whereagles]

4♦ without ELC

4♣ with ELC (since in this case pard might remove 4♦ to 4♠)

[luis]

In your posted hand I would bid 4♦

 

 

Did you mean 2♦ multi? because a multi 1NT is not yet teh fashion trend here :-)

 

1♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

I have agreed with my pd that a pass over 1m x xx is no preference but a pass over 1M x xx is "I would have passed 1hx" so this is for penalties to me. I will bid something as if the redouble didn't exist when I have a hand that wouldn't have passed 1hx

 

2♦* Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

This is "I have diamonds"

 

2♥* Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

This is "I would have passed 2♥x"

 

3♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

This is "I would have passed 3♥x"

[Gerben42]

Fixed it! 2♦ Multi and 1NT weak of course.

[Guest Jlall]

I play 2H X XX pass as neutral also. It's true they can sometimes psyche the XX if they know that it's our agreement but I feel like they are almost always honest and it's important for us to scramble into the right strain when theyre going to start Xing. I would play 3H X XX pass as penalty.

[joshs]

MP, None vuln.

 

3♥ Dbl Rdbl ?

 

♠xx

♥xx

♦xxxxx

♣AQxx

 

BTW what are your agreements on these auctions:

 

1♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass (easy one)

1NT** Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♦* Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♥** Dbl Rdbl Pass

3♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

* Multi

** weak

 

Perhaps these could be sequences for the BBO Advanced FD file also :P

In my most regular partnership, passes are always to play except for the one normal case: 1suit-Dbl-xx-P.

 

We play all the others as penalty passes, although passing 1N-xx is more a statement that we are balanced and think we are better off here than running, than a strong statement that they are going down.

 

I think 1N-x-xx(strong)-P and 2M-x-xx(strong)-P can be played either way, but players frequently misuse the xx's in these sequences (especially over 2M), so that so far I am about 4/4 passing on the 2M sequence, but only about 1/3 passing on the 1N-x-xx(strong) sequence [both times I was red vs white and flat, so was in trouble no matter what I did, even if I had a good runout method].

In general, on the 1N-x-xx sequence either player will run out with a 5 card suit, but we sometimes have to take our medicine here when vul vs not.

 

 

On the example hand, I bid 4D. If they bid on, I might try 5C next. If I was convinced they had game I would bid 3N then xx for rescue but I don't want to volunteer a -150 or so here. Probably, this plan is inconsistant, but this is one hand I need to be at the table for so I know what is really going on....

[cherdano]

BTW what are your agreements on these auctions:

 

1♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass (easy one)

1NT** Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♦* Dbl Rdbl Pass

2♥** Dbl Rdbl Pass

3♥ Dbl Rdbl Pass

 

* Multi

** weak

 

Perhaps these could be sequences for the BBO Advanced FD file also :ph34r:

Feel free to send it my way :ph34r:

Anyway, I would think in standard it's a penalty pass on the 2-level and higher?

 

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