Guest Jlall Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Do you know the girl who starred in smallville? Kristen Keuk lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Do you know the girl who starred in smallville? Kristen Keuk lol. Ah Smallville... Or as we call it "The Lex and Chloe Show" Allison Mack is MUCH cuter than Kristen Kreuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csdenmark Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Assuming bridge has ever been popular to the masses I think is a mistake. A quiet intellectuel activity don't have what is needed to be popular. The requirement to be popular is you will be able to discuss Meckwell performance in deal 7 at segment 3 at your local pub. Cardplay is popular and I think will always be. Bridge is a complicated language for special interested persons with fairly good time. It is no spectator sport. I like to watch Meckwell. But when Meckstroth plays with other partners than Rodwell they no longer use their specialities but fall back on standard. Unfortunately that normally also means Meckstroth in that way have handicapped himself so much that he ends at the bottom of the field. Nobody feel pleased to see their stars flopping. The habit of constantly ruling out spectacular features are heading for even more conformity. That is not what we need. Watching Vugraph you here: 'Take care, here comes a strong action.' Few seconds later you hear: 'Sorry folks, I don't understand what is happening here.' The last I want to draw your attention to here is change in society. With less physicals demand for jobs the demand for physical activity in leisure activities has increased. Especially for younger persons. I doubt spectactular behavior or clothes has anything to do with popularity of bridge. Maybe we some day will see the sexual trend to be introduced in bridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 The thread does offer us some point of thought and personally I enjoy it. The starter of the thread didnt ask anyone to do anything.... He just take an example.I'm not suggesting that Justin show up in Italy next year with a mohawk and a bottle of gin at the table, with hottie kibitzers (he might be thinking...). But, would that be ALL bad? So it is pointless to say below and it ruins a healthy discussionKen, since Justin doesn't want to do it, there is just one solution: YOU have to do it yourself Sorry for the ramblings. Back to the question, personally I dont think that would be ALL bad.Agassi and Mourinho - the Chelsea football club manager are the 'bad boys' in Tennis and Footabll. I would label them as ' colourful characters'. Tennis and Football does benefits from these guys in my opinions. We could not/should not request someone to be 'bad boys'. And no one could try to act like 'bad boys'. It is sort of born gift/talent. ZT is good. Most bridge players are ordinary and would benefit from it. If there were a Agassi or Mourinho in the bridge world, he would not need to break ZT, he could generate enough publicity elsewhere. Any Agassi or Mourinho in the bridge world? Maybe Zia Mahmood is the closest for now ...... :) ;) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 It is good to hear some sane reflections on my opining. I fear it is the very hostile reaction to this post which reflects the tendencies of the bridge community against effective promotion of the game. We disfavor money games, and yet bridge started gaining popularity as a money game, sort of. Culbertson was clearly a gambler. More, though, in that the average social group at the home was a small-stakes game, roughly equivalent to the home poker game. Out of that arena grew the desire to have the serious non-money tournament. Makes sense to me. At home, the stakes are bragging rights and about $20.00. At the tournament, the stakes are titles. The two are not mutually exclusive. Poker carries an initial draw of the ability to win money. Bridge can also. At a penny a point, a good slam nets $14.30, not a bad gambler's hand. A good lead against this saves that chunk of change, plus nets you a dollar -- not bad for a trash hand. So, why not initiate interest in the "game" with showy folks and money stakes? Why not have Buffet and Gates pair up with some celebs, or some "well-dressed" bridge professionals, and play at $1.00 a point (like they could not swing this). That would grab some attention, especially on the first good $1100 double. Once the draw is there, the folks are in the door, then the masses, not satisfied with a penny a point as the end-all, will naturally seek out the ACBL tournaments. The "gentlemen's game." No? BTW, if anyone wants to sponsor me, I'll gladly dye my hair purple and play money bridge on TV with Gates and Buffet. I'll even have my wife wear something naughty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 It is good to hear some sane reflections on my opining. Sane to you means anyone that agrees with you? Some might call you insane, but insufferable would probably be a better word. As for a high stakes bridge game being televised, that is actually a good idea. People respond to watching high stakes. The problem with bridge on TV is that the game itself is not easy to understand. People can't just "pick it up" as they can with poker. I'm not sure what a good resolution to this is, but I think if there could be a successful bridge TV show that would be a great thing, and high stakes celeb games would also be a good way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 A tax credit for those that can solve Bridge Master Level 2 hands would also help. Or maybe if all the celebrities would play Bridge. It would already help a lot if only one or two class A celebrities would play, and promote, Bridge. Omar Sharif promoted Bridge and he hasn't been an A-list star for a long time now. Actually I knew long before I learned Bridge that it's a game that Sharif played, while I had not even seen a single movie starring Sharif at that time! That's how well celebrity "endorsement" works. A Chinese player from my club has told me that bridge has become popular in China while their leader was playing and promoting it. Now you might say, this must have been propaganda, or that people in China blindly replicate their leaders to please the ones in charge or whatever, but the point is that it really helps if the game gets into the public eye in such a way. The main problem of the game is the image problem; there might be other reasons (learning curve and all), but the main issue is the picture of the typical bridge player (little old lady) that people are carrying around in their head. This stopped me from considering Bridge for a long time, and I was convinced in about a second that it's the perfect game for me when finally I took the opportunity to take lessons. If George Clooney started to play bridge and talk about it in the countless interviews he gives, believe me that image problem would be gone at that moment (only slightly exaggerating). --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 It isnt a problem the public doesnt understand the game if it is shown on TV. If one get Miss America to play bridge on TV, who is watching the cards? Certainly not me.It is just a promotion. The people who are interested would later get into the game, after the TV show. But I too agree too much energy is spent trying to promote bridge. No doubt the post is mostly for fun so may maybe a serious response is silly. However. I think too much time is spent worrying about how to get more people to play bridge, admire bridge, or, gasp, get it rated as an Olympic sport. The last two week-ends I played (some) in sectional tournmaments. Tomorrow I play at the unit game. In a few weeks I go to Dallas. I can play on-line any time day or night. Other people would rather do something else. Let them. When my older daughter was in college she told me someone was going to teach her bridge. I suggested she wait until she graduate. She now has a high demand job allowing her barely enough time for an occasional game of Clue with the kids. She should take up bridge? Maybe later when the kids are gone. Yes, I know Bill Gates plays bridge, and Eisenhower played bridge etc. But a person with an active life has to make some choices and if they don't choose bridge, maybe they know what they are doing. I enjoy the game a lot, so I play it. Others (my wife, for example) don't. That's fine. I seriously doubt that those who don't play bridge are unaware of the option to do so and I really hope they wouldn't be lured in by a bunch of fruitcake antics. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I was reading an article today about billionaires. Anyways, it said bill gates was #1 richest, and his bridge partner warren buffett was number 2. We need more of that too :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Last week one a German expert came on television in the show "Who wants to be a Millionaire?" First question on Bridge was "Isn't that a game for old ladies?" As long as this image persists, it's not helping. He countered by saying that it was an Olympic demonstration sport in 2002, but I doubt this will change anything. Well, he tried. Unfortunately he also displayed kind of an arrogant attitude and left with $500. Not the best ambassador of Bridge... He should have won the Million, with some more opportunities to promote the game. Oh well, at least now we've had Bridge mentioned on German prime-time TV once. --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Correction .... No good to get Miss American to play bridge on TV, get Salma Hayek ...... :) :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 A Chinese player from my club has told me that bridge has become popular in China while their leader was playing and promoting it. Now you might say, this must have been propaganda, or that people in China blindly replicate their leaders to please the ones in charge or whatever, but the point is that it really helps if the game gets into the public eye in such a way. Sure I dont think you are pin-pointing Chinese. Just want to add that the same situation could happen elsewhere in the world, if their leaders do the same. :) :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'd rather have George Clooney or Brad Pitt take up Bridge than the German chancellor (who might be called a little old lady :-). --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 One thing I remember reading by Ms. Truscott is that she used to play on her company's bridge team. Are there tournaments on BBO where, say, teams from GE, IBM, HP, Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Verizon and other companies compete? To me, this seems like a natural promotion opportunity for bridge. People love to root for teams. Who wouldn't love to see a showdown between Google, Microsoft, Apple and IBM? Toyota and GM? Verizon and Vonage? etc. The people who work for these companies would and there are lots of them. And wouldn't some of those corporate egos, who want to win at all costs, be willing to put some corporate $$$ into the game? Bridge is a pretty good value for them I think, not like they have to build a stadium or host a PGA tournament. Maybe some enterprising bridge professional or tournament director could pair up with someone with promotion skills and corporate contacts to make this work. I don't have the time or skills to get something like this going myself. But I can put in a few hours here and there on odd jobs and contribute a few hundred bucks if the rest of you guys on this thread want to try to make something happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Last week one a German expert came on television in the show "Who wants to be a Millionaire?" First question on Bridge was "Isn't that a game for old ladies?" As long as this image persists, it's not helping. He countered by saying that it was an Olympic demonstration sport in 2002, but I doubt this will change anything. Well, he tried. Unfortunately he also displayed kind of an arrogant attitude and left with $500. Not the best ambassador of Bridge... He should have won the Million, with some more opportunities to promote the game. Oh well, at least now we've had Bridge mentioned on German prime-time TV once. --Sigi We had a bridge player win £500,000 a few years ago in the UK on Millionaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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