ArcLight Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 White on White RHO opened in 1st seat 3♥ holding something like: ♠ K x♥ K T 9 7 5 3 2♦ x x x♣ A Afterwards the said they rejected opening 1♥ because of the crummy heart suit, and the potentially wasted Spade K?!?!?!. 1 - they had opening bid strength2 - if you open a 3 bid with that strength, you pard will never expect it.3 - it doesnt take that much to make game, and if pard has the ♥Ax and ♠A it has a reasonable chance on a split or finesse if the Q or J drops with LHO.What about 1♥ - 2♦ - 2♥ - 2♠ - 3♥ - 4♥? I think this is too strong for the "typical" 3H bid, so should their pard alert that their 3 bids may be of opening bid strength? You can always say "you should ask" but it gets a little tiresome to interrogate their pard as to what they expect from their pards 3♥ bid, especially since the standard 3 bid shows 7 cards and little outside. What are your criteria for 3 bids for the 4 suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 It's not unreasonable to open that 3♥ playing matchpoints. At teams, 1♥ seems much more adequate. As for criteria.. you have 1 million different ones (the nr. of bridge players in the world). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I open this 1♥, but in real life everyone (in ideal life: every partnership) has his own criteria for 3♥. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Arend, (and everyone else)What are YOUR criteria for a 3 level bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Don't worry ArcLight, that is a 1H opener in (almost) everyone's book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Arend, (and everyone else)What are YOUR criteria for a 3 level bid? There are no criteria. Preemption is more a matter of judgement and feel than a technical thing. For instance, I once held, at all vuln, 1st seat: ♠ xxx♥ x♦ xxx♣ QJTxxx No technical criteria will advise a 3♣ opener here, but I looked at LHO and he seemed to be counting points, aching to bid. Immediately I popped out the stop card and bid 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 You really need to take issues like SeatVulnerabilityPartner's sense of humor into account. Third seat, white on red I've happily opened 3♥ on hands like xxKQJ9xxxxxxx Admittedly, this is an extreme example but the basic point holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 3♥ for me, I used to open 1♥ with that, but I hate stiff aces so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 An offensive preemption has 1 defensive honor commonly,it's miracle when he has 2 or more. i recommend 1♥ opening and to preempt 3♥ when locates on the 3rd position. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Simply put, if I'm in 3rd seat, I want to cram the bidding room as much as possible, so I'll open 3♥. Otherwise, it is 1♥ in all other seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I don't think I've ever preempted in 1st or 2nd chair with 2 big outside cards. 3rd seat its a very reasonable 3H call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 The main criteria is this Do you allow partner to pass with 7h and badly located honnors ? akxxxxxxxQxxx if no...do you allow him to open super light ? if no then 3h bid is the correct bid. I like to play that we rarely pass a hand with 6 or 7M. So if its not strong to open at the 1 level then its a preempt. only etreme off-shapes distribution are passed and hand with no high-card are opened 1 level lower. jxxxxxakqxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx i have no problem opening 2s with both of these hands. So discuss with your partner if you allow passing with 7 long suit. discuss how light can your opening be. and youll get your answer for most case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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