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What do you do in the pass-out seat?  

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  1. 1. What do you do in the pass-out seat?

    • Double (take-out)
      2
    • Pass, too weak to act
      13
    • Pass, double would be penalties
      0
    • 4D
      3
    • I would have bid 3D over 1S
      3


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Guest Jlall
I voted for pass, too weak to act. If I X, I'm too afraid partner will sit expecting a big number only to be disappointed, I'm not really that eager to be in 4H either. Bidding is not crazy though.
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Pard is marked with 13-15 or so. He didn't bid because he has spade lenght, which is quite plausible. Points break 20-20 and I have a void in their suit. I sure am bidding something here..

 

Double seems the best bid here, intending to convert 4 to 4. This pull-out is reasonable because pard can't have a 1-suiter. With a suit, spade lenght and fair hand, he would have already bid something over 3.

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I pass, but I am innately conservative by today's standards.

 

My concern is that partner will normally hold 4 and there is no reason to assume that:

 

1) they are making 3

2) we are making our contract

3) we can reach and stop in our best spot

 

If they are failing in 3 (and why not?), then what are we gaining by trying to score 130 in . I'll spot you that imp in exchange for avoiding disaster.

 

Why are we going to make 4? Don't we have a lot of losers, or is that my imagination? Why does partner have to hold 3+? And if he is short in , our defence goes up and our offence down.

 

If we can make 4, just maybe partner will bid 5. Now, if he does so, we may well have a play, to the point that this is not really a negative.

 

BTW, I have assumed that we were balancing with 4. Double is suicidal/fraticidal.... what are YOU leading after double, and 3N (intending to correct 4 to 4) is gambling that partner, with say 4=4=1=4 doesn't bless you for showing both minors and leaps to 5.

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Throwing caution to the wind, does the LOTT, such as it is, not indicate that we have a 9+8 situation here? (At worst.) If we go down 2 doubled in 4 of a red suit (-300) when they are making 140, so be it. If pard has more in D then -100 is ok and making doubled is a possibility. Sometimes the 1S bidder won't double because he thinks that it is your hand (which it may well be...)
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I would have passed out 3S.

 

Tom Townsend (a better player than I am, but I can still beat him at arm wrestling) doubled in the pass out seat. That resulted in an easy +600 in 5D (bidding diamonds at any time has the same effect, unless you tried 3D on the first round which on a bad day would end in 6D-1). Partner has a 3244 16-count.

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