Guest Jlall Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 You hold Axx KQx AT987xx ---. Red/White imps. 2 passes to RHO who opens 1C. You bid 1D, LHO bids 5C and partner Xs. Some info... LHO is very agressive at these colors, partner is a very agressive Xer, and RHO is capable of opening quite light for a lead in 3rd seat. What's your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Can't be bothered to format the text, huh? Anyway, I pass. Not going to guess this high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I bid 5♦ I don't like to leave potentially agressive doubles with a 7 card suit and a void in clubs. If they are good players they won't be bidding 5♣ to go for a number. 5♦ might make, or 5♣ might make so only when both contracts are down pulling the double is wrong based on that I think I have a good reason to pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Can't be bothered to format the text, huh? No, this is how I write my problems. This is how I've always written them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshs Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Well I know the hand and the winning decision, but I am a simple sole and am just bidding 5D.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Pass I have not gotten any x's right in the last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 IMO the question to ask is what is this double? Basically, I would take it as a maximum pass card-showing let's not get stolen from type of bid with some kind of tolerance for diamonds. If I had to construct a hand, I'd guess something like: Kxx, Axxx, Qx, J10xx or thereabouts. I bid 5D, although a case can be made for bidding 6 in an attempt to drive the opponents into a save. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 5♦. By the way, I play this double as card showing so its a little easier to pull. Preempts work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Pass Maybe we can make 5♦: if I had to guess, I would say we probably can. But we rate to go +500 on average on defence, and playing in 5♦, if we make 80% of the time, and only go -100 when we fail, we average less than +400. In imps, we are risking 12 imps to win 3. And this is being generous since I would expect our upside to be +800 more often than only 300, and on a few occasions, 5♦ may be hopeless and doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I also pass. I expect partner to usually have more values in clubs than the hand that Winston suggests. If not, we are still going plus. Ignore my comment if I got the hand wrong due to the difficult format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Pass.Much harder at matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 The winning bid was 6D (barring a double dummy lead). I tried 5D at the table, and confess my only choices were 5D and pass. Partner had JTxx AJxxx K JTx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 The problem here is if pass is forcing or not. My teammates had a similar missunderstanding today, getting +300 instead of +2210, +1460 or even +710. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 The winning bid was 6D (barring a double dummy lead). I tried 5D at the table, and confess my only choices were 5D and pass. Partner had JTxx AJxxx K JTx.You are fortunate: most partnerships don't play passed hand negative doubles at the 5-level when partner overcalls. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 The problem here is if pass is forcing or not. My teammates had a similar missunderstanding today, getting +300 instead of +2210, +1460 or even +710. I'm not sure what you mean.If partner had passed over 5C, of course that isn't forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 How much was 5♣X? My choice was between P and 5♦, obviously. It would have been an agonizing one in either case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 The problem here is if pass is forcing or not. My teammates had a similar missunderstanding today, getting +300 instead of +2210, +1460 or even +710. I'm not sure what you mean.If partner had passed over 5C, of course that isn't forcing. You can play it that way, but certainly when an opponent bids a contract he is obviously not trying to make, playing forcing pass might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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