pclayton Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sqxxhjxxdqtxxcq9x]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 2♠ on your left, x by pard and 3♠ on your right. You pass, and pard reopens with a double. Your call? I chose to pass. My ODR sucks and it looks like 17 TT, which adjusts downward if anything. If we are making +130, we are nipping 3♠ for 300. I'll settle for +100 when we are -100 too. 3N looks sick to me. Dummy hits (hands rotated): [hv=d=s&v=e&n=skjtha987d653cj84&e=sq62hj42dqt72cq93]266|200|Scoring: MP[/hv] Pard leads the ♣AK and a 3rd club (after you encourage with the 3). Declarer ruffs and leads a spade to the King. Have any alarms gone off yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Put ♦Q?, I can't think of anything else by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Some hands are too tough to review single dummy perhaps. Here's the entire hand: [hv=d=s&v=e&n=skjtha987dxxxcjxx&w=sxhktxdaj9xcakxxx&e=sqxxhjxxdqtxxcq9x&s=sa9xxxxhqxxdkxcxx]399|300|Scoring: Rubber[/hv] What had happened at the table is that declarer (a very good player from LA) ruffed the 3rd club played a spade to the K and the J♠, running it when I ducked. He now started an intrafinesse in hearts by leading the ♥7 and ducking it around to pard. Pard is now endplayed and has to give up the 8th trick for a paltry +100 for us (against +130 or 150 in a minor). I brought this up with John Mohan (who hosted a post session analysis) and mentioned that I thought that playing the Q♠ on the 2nd round spoils the endplay, since declarer is in the wrong hand to try the intrafinesse. He looked at it for a few minutes and agreed. However, I showed the hand to Chris Larsen who saw a flaw in this play. Can you spot it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I think if declarer guesses hearts to be 3-3, he can always succeed by establishing the 4th heart without letting you on lead (including if you cover ♠J with the Q). This is more an avoidance play rather than an endplay. It seems to me that when your partner exits with a club after winning ♥T, declarer is forced to make the same 3-3 hearts guess. I suppose the most believable double dummy defense is a club underlead at trick 2 and a diamond back. Still seems very unlikely at the table. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Declarer just draws 3 rounds of trumps ending on table and ducks a heart to your partner (you can't insert the Jack without setting up a finesse position). Partner has to exit in clubs, so declarer ruffs. As cherdano says declarer can come to 8 tricks by leading the HQ out of hand and ducking, playing for hearts 3-3, but he can also get to 8 tricks in other ways from this position: [hv=n=sha98dxxc&w=shkxdaxcx&e=shjxdq10xc&s=sxhqxdkxc]399|300|[/hv] So far he has lost 2 clubs and a heart. All he does is cash the last trump. If West discards a heart, the AQ of hearts will be good, a diamond and he exits with a low diamond, discards a diamond on the master club and waits for the heart trick, a club and he plays ace and another heart and waits for the diamond trick. This also involves reading the position, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I have one more comment: I think declarer should get the heart suit right. After the first round intra-finesse to the ten, and the ♥Q covered by the K and ducked, it a priori seems to be almost 50% whether to finesse or to play for the ♥J drop -- but it's a restricted choice position, making the drop about 2:1 favorite. Since the inferences from the auction probably agree with that (if LHO is 1=4=3=5, he might have been more likely to double again, but on the other hand Phil would be more likely to take out with 3=2=5=3), a heart to the ace in the 3rd round seems right. I am not sure whether it's better than Frances' 3-suit squeeze; but it also makes when hearts are 4-2 with Phil having Jx. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshs Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Some hands are too tough to review single dummy perhaps. Here's the entire hand: [hv=d=s&v=e&n=skjtha987dxxxcjxx&w=sxhktxdaj9xcakxxx&e=sqxxhjxxdqtxxcq9x&s=sa9xxxxhqxxdkxcxx]399|300|Scoring: Rubber[/hv] What had happened at the table is that declarer (a very good player from LA) ruffed the 3rd club played a spade to the K and the J♠, running it when I ducked. He now started an intrafinesse in hearts by leading the ♥7 and ducking it around to pard. Pard is now endplayed and has to give up the 8th trick for a paltry +100 for us (against +130 or 150 in a minor). I brought this up with John Mohan (who hosted a post session analysis) and mentioned that I thought that playing the Q♠ on the 2nd round spoils the endplay, since declarer is in the wrong hand to try the intrafinesse. He looked at it for a few minutes and agreed. However, I showed the hand to Chris Larsen who saw a flaw in this play. Can you spot it? Well yeah, if you don't pull the 3'rd trump and instead play a heart to the ace, and then heart back running the 7 if you don't put in the J. LHO is then toast. A pretty hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I think in real life the chance of making the contract via the intrafinesse is too great, and declarer would opt for that instead of ducking the K♥ when its covered. I can also see a competent declarer playing losing THREE hearts tricks on this layout (after 3 clubs, spade, spade (queen) ace, spade to board): .....7. ♥7, ducked to 108. Club exit9. Q♥ covered and ducked (playing for KJTx on left)10. last club11. ♥ hooking into stiff jack. -500 - ouch! The solution to 8 tricks is easier than anyone has stated. If the Q♠ is played at the second round, all declarer has to do is play A♥, ♥. Of course that line fails if hearts are 4-2, and why shouldn't they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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