Echognome Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa8632haq964djt4c]133|100|Scoring: IMPP - (3♣) - ?[/hv] Your call please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I'd go with double. If we have a big major suit fit we've probably got a game, but I'm not willing to commit by bidding 4♣ right away. On the off chance that double is passed out, I have at least two defensive tricks and partner should have a decent stack of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Uggh. What a horrible hand. I just think that whatever I bid here will be wrong. I'll make a very wet pass and take the blame from partner later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyot Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Bid 4♣ and pass whatever partner says. I'm not really afraid of getting a bad score. If there is enough strength behind me to double 4 of anything, we're most likely defending against 3NT that is likely to make as all missing club values are in front of the preempt. Of course, if partner has KJx in clubs and another king on the side, perfectly average hand in strength, that's a pity :)... but if his 7 points are good ones, the game has chances worth trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Double. For 4♥♠ when ruffing in long trumps, I will need 9+card fit. If partners pass, I have very good hand for defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Dbl, I don't have the values but I have extra Majors. We can still signoff at 3-level, but that depends on partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 double or pass are the only bids i'd consider... i guess i'd double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Yeah, double and pass whatever partner produces. Sometimes partner will pass 3♣. Occasionally 3♣ may even go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 4♣ pick a major. Doubling with a void is terrible to me. Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 4C. For doublers, what do you do after 4D from pd? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 What? Pass or 5♦ (would say 5♦, but pass is quite reasonable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 "What? Pass or 5D (would say 5D, but pass is quite reasonable). " Pd is a passed hand, you have 11 hcp, you have J104 in diamonds, and you would raise to 5D? And I though I was optimistic :D Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 What? Pass or 5♦ (would say 5♦, but pass is quite reasonable). 5♦ over 4♦ is very interesting how fast can you run after tabling dummy ? There are 3 things that can go wrong with the double of 3♣ - Pd can bid 3NT - Pd can bid 4♦- Pd can pass 3♣x Only when pd has a 4 card major AND decides to bid it instead of leaving the double or bidding 3NT only then you have made the right call with dbl. I would say it is risking too much. Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 OK, 5♦ over 4♦ are crazy :D Pass could be quite good.4D will be played.Over 3NT: pass (or 4♣ and pass partner's bid). (Double comrades, what will you choose? Other's can join as well ;) ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I would bid 4C. I may go for a number, but X will beget 3N too often (even when partner has a 4 card major he will sometimes bid 3N). I don't really feel good about this bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I'll double. 4♣ looks like a tilt call to me, but could work. If 3N gets hit, I'll then pull to 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 3H. Planning on bidding 4clubs over 3nt by partner. I think x and then 4clubs would show a much more powerful hand.I think x and pulling 3nt would show a much more powerful hand.My guess is it is the opponent's hand not ours. We will be the ones sacrificing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Question: What does 4C show? Does it specifically show the Majors or does it show a 2 suiter? And do you consider it "standard"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Thank god partner is a passed hand! 4♣: an enormous overbid, saved by partner's passed hand status.. I hope. I am at the very least a King light: AKxxx AQxxx J10x would be a minimum for me for this auction. Double is horrible: there has to be a significant risk of at east three unmanageable continuations: 1. It's my lead2. I have to bid over 3♦ (I'd be happier over 4♦)3. I am laying down dummy in 3N..... and I sure am not bidding over 3N: that would be an even grosser overbid than 4♣ initially As for the thought of 4♣ fetching 4♦.. it is impossible: 4♣ is NOT a 3-suited takeout: it shows the majors (for me... and I may be in the minority here, so do not intend to be dogmatic). Altho there is a case for 4♦ asking me to bid my better major B) I admit that were I 4=4=5=0 monster hand, I'd like 4♣ to be 3-suited, but, for me, it is not: that hand I double and hope to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I would think 4D is equal preference over 4C in this sequence. If not by agreement then perhaps by logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 The fear of a 3NT bid is not a good reason to bid 4C immediately. If partner bids 3NT over your double, you can bid 4C then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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