Joe de Balliol Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 ♠xx♥KTxxx♦AKT8xx♣- You play 5cm, better minor, light 2/1 [9-10+]. In a Gold Cup match, you're dealer and I vulnerable against not. You have several ways to treat this:1) Lie about your sixth diamond by opening 1H and rebidding diamonds ad infinitum [possibly supporting spades later on]2) Lie about your fifth and potentially fourth heart by opening 1D and rebidding 2D over 2C3) Lie about your strength by opening 1D and rebidding 2H over 2C. 4) Pass to begin with and let the problem sort itself out later on What do you think of each of these ways? At the table, I chose an option which was soundly criticised by all present, including me. When I got to thinking about the hand, I decided my option wasn't so bad, and is in fact reasonable. Advice welcome. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I bid 1H with these hands. I would rather lie about minor length than major length, and you are not close to reversing strength, even with a 6-5. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 1♥ and rebid diamonds until my partners understands (We open weak 5M-6+m with the major). If there is no such agreement, again 1♥ and rebid diamonds :D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 The only one I really wouldn't do is (3). While it's OK to reverse light on a 5-6, this is too light for me. I don't think any of the rest are totally unreasonable. It's not quite the right vulnerability for (4) which is an option that can work very well at times. If it goes P 1S P 4S you are committed to acting now which is slightly uncomfortable at red. I would probably go for (2). Many uncontested game auctions will give me a chance to get hearts bid, and if the opponents are going to bid spades I'd rather have opened my best suit. I don't mind (1) either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'd like to vote in favor of E I prefer opening 1♦Rebidding 2♦ With luck, I might be able to show hearts later on. I don't mind taking some liberties and bidding a 5 card major ahead of a six card minor. With this said and done, the disparity in suit quality argues against this. Personally, I think that the hand is too strong to pass initially unless I'm playing a very sound opening system. Equally significant, this is no where near enough to consider a reverse. One question about option (3). There is a big difference between the auction 1♦ - 1N - 2♥ and1♦ - 2♣ - 2♥ For some pairs, the bottom sequence doesn't even promise a "classic" reverse, but simply shows a stopper... I'm not in that camp, but it does exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 What's the difference between (E) and (2)?(Other than you could argue that you aren't 'lying' as you haven't denied 5 hearts by bidding this way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I would open 1♦ planning to rebid 2♦, but I would rebid 2♥ over 2♣, since I don't think this bid needs much extras. Yes I know I may get too high. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 What's the difference between (E) and (2)?(Other than you could argue that you aren't 'lying' as you haven't denied 5 hearts by bidding this way). E is a letter and 2 is a number? On a more serious note, I should have simply voted for choice 2.Moreover, I think I should have gone to bed earlier than 2:00 AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi, I would open 1H, intending to show 5-5. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyot Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 1♥ camp. I do not consider treating 6 diamonds as 5 diamonds if my hand is not good enough to bid as reverse. I don't think that with 14- HCP, I would miss some good contract just because partner thought that I only had 5-5 in the red suits. Keep 1♦ with 2 hearts bids in store to show GOOD hands (14HCP in the two suits minimum). So far I had no major distaster with this approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hi, I would open 1H, intending to show 5-5. Marlowe Same for me ! A ♥ support can be enough for game and the best way to know it is opening in ♥. IMHO, you go nowhere by opening in ♦ cause you don't have enough to show you ♥ suit. Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I open 1♦. I understand 1♥, but I hate distorting shape, and this hand is closer to 4=6 than to 5-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I open 1♦. I understand 1♥, but I hate distorting shape, and this hand is closer to 4=6 than to 5-5 Sighhhh. I have to agree with my enemy from Canada. But I'll get my revenge soon when the Danish curling women thrash the Canadians :D Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I open 1♦. I understand 1♥, but I hate distorting shape, and this hand is closer to 4=6 than to 5-5 Sighhhh. I have to agree with my enemy from Canada. But I'll get my revenge soon when the Danish curling women thrash the Canadians :D RolandI have already made arrangements (by winning a bet) to trade 1kg of Nanaimo bars for 1kg of danish pastries in Verona in June (provided that I can smuggle the nanaimo bars into Italy). Want to make it double or nothing, Roland? Of course, what any one (or any country, for that matter) would do with 2kg of nanaimo bars boggles the imagination (to say nothing of what it would do to the stomach) Maybe we could also wager on the Danish women's hockey team against the Canadians? (who won their first two matches by a combined score of 28-0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maybe we could also wager on the Danish women's hockey team against the Canadians? (who won their first two matches by a combined score of 28-0) Sure, and you are bound to lose! Why? Because we don't have a women's hockey team at the Olympics :D Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 3) Easy I hope I understood your notes correctly that 2/1 is 100% game force not Acol style. 1d and then 2h over 2clubs. Opening lite, 2H rebid does not promise more than this strength. Yes, that means 2H may be 9 -20 hcp. Partner assumes the lower range for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe de Balliol Posted February 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 We play light 2/1s, so 2H shows a stronger hand than you have. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 1♥ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 1D without a doubt. However, I would open 1H with xx AK10xx Kxxxxx -. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 1 H without a doubt:-)I had been closer to open 2 Heart (as a two suiter with a minor) then to a reverse. After all, I am vul. against not in first seat, so my weak openings can have up to eleven HCPS. I just upgraded, because the suits are very pure.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 1♦ with such a difference in suit quality. On Hannie's counterexample hand I would open 1♥ also. I have little experience with light 2/1s except in light opening systems (i.e. then my opening would show 9 - 13 or so and I can reverse on this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 with this following hand i prefer to open 1♦: ?KQxxxKQxxxx ?The reason is offensive , focus on length.But i will open 1♥ with a defensive 6-5 hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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