7-5 Hearts and Diamonds

[kgr]

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You play SAYC + in you system you can also show 8, 9 ... tricks in a suit:

- 2C-2D-2S-2NT-3H: 8 tricks in H

- 2C-2D-3H: 9 tricks in H

- 2C-2D-2S-2NT-4H: 10 tricks in H

- 2C-2D-4H: 11 tricks in H

2C opening also includes a weak 2 in D, so if you open 2C then partner will only bid something different then 2D if he has 14+.

Opps are not too strong and will only intervene over 2C if really long in a suit.

What do you open? And what is your bidding plan?

[Guest Jlall]

I would open 1H. My next bid will depend on the auction obviously.

[joshs]

Well opening 1H is normal. If you played the 4N opening as specific aces, you could try that (5C shows none, 5N shows clubs, 6 level bids show 2 and you bid the lower one).

 

Personally I think

1H then 3D then 4H over discouraging noise is enough. If the auction gets competative you will be happy to have started naturally.

[mikeh]

1♥ seems clear.

 

I do not like your scheme for showing specific numbers of tricks in ♥ after opening 2♣, altho in fairness, proper assessment would require knowing the entire structure. Anyway, you were not asking for that type of comment :)

 

I think that one should try not to open 2♣ with purely offensive hands, for several reasons.

 

On this type of hand, there is no realistic chance of the auction going 1♥ P P P

 

So you will always get a chance to bid again. And should they blast in a black suit, you are certainly reopening at all conceivable levels: I would not pass if it were 6♠ around to me!

 

If you open 2♣, the opps will bounce at least as fiercely as they would over 1♥, and you are a tempo behind in showing your shape: now, maybe ♦ is not the correct trump suit, but there will be hands on which partner needs to know that you have an extreme red two-suiter.

 

Also, if you open 2♣, you will almost never be able to trust partner should he decide to make a penalty double later on. Indeed, he will often be making a penalty double not on defence but on a lack of cards: your 2♣ opening will convert many of his pass situations into forcing passes. A 2♣ opening should announce ownership of the hand: with this hand, you have no clear reason to think that this is not their hand in 6♠!

 

If you open 1♥ and later bid some large number of ♦, and he, silent until then, doubles the opps, you can pass safely, since his double will be a positive statement, not an ambiguous call.

 

Finally, I would not choose my constructive bidding approach on the basis that my opps will pass hands on which some others might bid.

[Walddk]

1♥. I plan to bid again later, and there will be a later. I'd like to see the layout where 1♥ gets passed out.

 

Roland

[Kalvan14]

3NT for me: specific A asking.

 

The worry in opening this hand 1♥ is that oppos might heavily pre-empt in spades (assuming that they are not at unfav-vul). Still, if you have not a specific opening, there is no alternative

[whereagles]

One plan is to open 3♥ and later bid diamonds, and drive on your own to the 5 or 6-level. That sure would be descriptive, albeit it is very possible someone throws a spanner in the works.

 

Anyway, this is the sort of hand you can't bid scientifically, so anything you open can be right or wrong.

[Gerben42]

1♥ and then some ♦ afterwards. Possibly 2NT showing a preempt in ♣ or a big 2-suiter with ♥ without ♣ :)

[cherdano]

1♥ and then some ♦ afterwards. Possibly 2NT showing a preempt in ♣ or a big 2-suiter with ♥ without ♣ :)

Gerben, you are so much behind, not yet playing modified *censored*? :)

(Playing unmodified, there is a good chance you will be at 5♣ at your next turn.)

[coyot]

Seeing the 2♣-2♦-4♥ sequence to show 11 tricks, this is a no brainer. I'm just Club and Heart ace off the grand :).

 

The only problem with this opening would be partner pushing me to a bad slam with his useless spade values, which means that I would still try to open this hand 1♥. 3♦ later is GF, so no problem here.

 

With my spade shortness, I'm fairly certain that the auction will NOT end in 1♥ :). Either partner scrapes together 1♠ or weak 2♠ or the opps will reopen with their spades :)