Fluffy Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sakqhq93dak1074ck5]133|100|Scoring: MP W - N - E - S1♦-ps-ps-??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 2NT. I didn't include 2NT as an option because it is 16-18 on my partnership (it is ♣+♥ on another), maybe it is different from what people play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 2NT looks like the right choice to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Don't like 1NT as 9 - 12. I bid whatever shows a big NT hand, whatever that is. Either Dbl then 2NT or 2NT right away, I'm sure you have agreed something if you bothered to make 1NT 9 - 12 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 X+1NT= 13-15, X+2NT is 19-20, we didn't develop any way to show 21 ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Double, then cuebid, then bid NT... --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 This summer a similar hand caused quite an uproar at a Dutch bridge club, except that it was a 25-count and favorable at IMPs. One of the players decided to pass and was the only one to go plus (+200 I believe, for a nice gain). The guy who did it later said that he thought it was a "bad 25-count", which lead to some hilarious comments. Anyway, passing could be right but I would make the mainstream choice of showing a balanced 21-count. If it doesn't exist then I just show a balanced 20-count, after all, this is a "bad 21-count" ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miron Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 2NT, if no direct agreement should be stronger then double and NT, about 19 pts. (I wouldn't try double and later jump in NT: 1♦ - p - p - x | 2♣ - p - 3NT?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 i would bid 2nt but i have the feeling that database or simulation will tell us that 2nt or 3nt in that situation goes down often. Because close game with 13 pts to the left of the strong hand usually dont make. It mostly depend of the endplaying opportunities. and on that side i dont like the hand too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 2NT, might go down, but I bid my hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 If 2NT is 16-18 then I bid 3NT. I'm not doubling then cue-bidding then bidding no trumps. Partner might think I'm interested in playing somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 People seem divided between double and 2NT, the follow up I guess would be something like.... 1♦-ps-ps-Xps-1♥-2♦-2NTps-3♣-ps-?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 IF I opt to Double, hear 2H, and RHO bids 2D, I think I hit that. If I persist in bidding 2NT (odd), and partner bids 3C, 3H seems obvious. I do not understand not hitting 2D, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 There was a pretty similar hand I posted several months ago that had a 22 count with AKQxx in RHO's weak 2 bid. This thread was circulated to a number of real good players and a lot of them passed. I was amazed at their action, but if you generate a few hands, pass generally turns out best. You have no trick source, and all honors are sitting over you. This situation is even more extreme; LHO has an opening bid. Unless someone snuck in a pinocle deck, how do we ever expect to score anything close to 9 tricks in 3N? I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 By finding the 2 red Js in partner's hand No way I'd pass this hand: double, and then 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 missing game... missing game.... am I the only one to see a partscore battle in here? :(. ok you were mostly right, 4♥ can make: [hv=n=sjxxhj10xxxdcq9xxx&w=sxxxhakxdqxxxca10x&e=sxxxxhxxdjxxxcjxx&s=sakqhqxxdak10xxckx]399|300|[/hv] I almost bid a very clever 1NT, it had the advantage of playing a very good partscore contract, and an easy discover of a partner's 5 card major since he will likelly prefer to play in 2M than 1NT whatever he has. But it would be too clever I guess, after 1NT-ps-2♥-ps I might try 3♦ to invite to 4♥, and it may very well be passed out hehehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 missing game... missing game.... am I the only one to see a partscore battle in here? :(. ok you were mostly right, 4♥ can make: [hv=n=sjxxhj10xxxdcq9xxx&w=sxxxhakxdqxxxca10x&e=sxxxxhxxdjxxxcjxx&s=sakqhqxxdak10xxckx]399|300|[/hv] I almost bid a very clever 1NT, it had the advantage of playing a very good partscore contract, and an easy discover of a partner's 5 card major since he will likelly prefer to play in 2M than 1NT whatever he has. But it would be too clever I guess, after 1NT-ps-2♥-ps I might try 3♦ to invite to 4♥, and it may very well be passed out hehehe. Looks like 4♥ should always make. Oh well, got this one wrong. I'd be trying to collect the 3rd undertrick (in vain) against 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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