Sonny S Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Where and when can I see (experienced) Moscito-bidders in action? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Whenever Richard and I are playing, or when Toothbrush and I are playing. Perhaps some other people play it to, but I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Where and when can I see (experienced) Moscito-bidders in action? :) Hi Sonny, I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but we (DrTodd / foobar) play a similar system (albeit w/ FP openings) on BBO from 12-1 PST every weekday. The purists might object, but there are a lot of similarities (opening ranges, transfer openings, symmetric relays, etc)... Atul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshs Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 You can occasionally see an australian pair playing Moscito on BBO. Parl Marsden might be playing it of course, but I think I recently saw bobby richmond playing it with someone (Lorenz?). Dan Neill and I play TOSR on BBO (x-fer openings, strong club, symmetric relay) but there are a few significant style differences between the systems (Moscito is more agressive, especially with the 3 card raises). Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 You can occasionally see an australian pair playing Moscito on BBO. Parl Marsden might be playing it of course, but I think I recently saw bobby richmond playing it with someone (Lorenz?).What are the respective BBO names of these people (esp. interested in Marston's)? Thanks, Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 You can occasionally see an australian pair playing Moscito on BBO. Parl Marsden might be playing it of course, but I think I recently saw bobby richmond playing it with someone (Lorenz?).What are the respective BBO names of these people (esp. interested in Marston's)? Thanks, Sigi Paul is PMIf there was sufficient interest, I'd be appy to ask him whether he'd be interested in an exhibition match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Paul is PMIf there was sufficient interest, I'd be appy to ask him whether he'd be interested in an exhibition matchThat would be totally and completely awesome! Please make sure that Europeans can watch it, too (now I wanna see how you cope with three totally different time zones :-). --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Maybe its time for swatting the MOSCITOs, the next generation... Ideally, I'd like to get a strong team playing fairly standard methods (BBO Advanced or French Standard or some such) to go up against team MOSCITO (whatever that might be). Frances, any chance that we could coax you and your husband into the arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 The spirit is willing.... During the week I work away from the UK and I don't have BBO-compliant internet access (firewall). Weekends are possible in theory, but pretty much every weekend from now until April is either bridge or skiing or when neither of those visiting friends/parents/in-laws who complain we're never in the country. (That's also why we haven't been doing much vugraph recently). Anyway, I shall consult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisO Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Where and when can I see (experienced) Moscito-bidders in action? ;)I made a Vugraph of the first Swat the Moscito match on BBO - held in mid 2003. Players included Paul Marston, Sartaj Hans, Fred, Luis Argerich and Inquiry. Match has added commentary provided by some of the players after the match. Email me and I'll send you the file. Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisO Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Maybe its time for swatting the MOSCITOs, the next generation... Hope this goes ahead - If you like I could supply a .dup file (of selected hands, maybe) from a Bermuda Bowl final or major event that has a Vugraph record. Might be interesting to compare results ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Maybe its time for swatting the MOSCITOs, the next generation... Hope this goes ahead - If you like I could supply a .dup file (of selected hands, maybe) from a Bermuda Bowl final or major event that has a Vugraph record. Might be interesting to compare results ;) I VEHEMENTLY dislike "events" that use hands from past events. It's especially problematic when some of the participants are good enough players to have potentially 1. Seen the boards before2. Recall the hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Maybe its time for swatting the MOSCITOs, the next generation... Hope this goes ahead - If you like I could supply a .dup file (of selected hands, maybe) from a Bermuda Bowl final or major event that has a Vugraph record. Might be interesting to compare results :) I VEHEMENTLY dislike "events" that use hands from past events. It's especially problematic when some of the participants are good enough players to have potentially 1. Seen the boards before2. Recall the hands An additional problem with this approach is that as the selection process cannot itself be random it lays itself open to the charge that the selected hands may, taken as a whole, be better (or worse) suited to Moscito than to other methods. That is of course likely to be the case anyway with a small population of hands, even if randomly selected, but at least if left to chance it does not leave anyone exposed to accusations of malpractice, however ill-justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 An additional problem with this approach is that as the selection process cannot itself be random it lays itself open to the charge that the selected hands may, taken as a whole, be better (or worse) suited to Moscito than to other methods. That is of course likely to be the case anyway with a small population of hands, even if randomly selected, but at least if left to chance it does not leave anyone exposed to accusations of malpractice, however ill-justified.I agree with that. Although it is really tempting to have a supposedly unbiased third party select some interesting hands for the event (that would not have been played before in any well-known tournament), that would leave a bitter note on it. In any case I'm voting for playing at least 26 boards in the event (if time permits), as to keep the bias towards one method low. BTW it would be great to have Fred playing, is there any chance this might happen? --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 BTW it would be great to have Fred playing, is there any chance this might happen? If the match takes place some time in April I can probably play. I have a lot of bridge already scheduled in the remainder of February and throughout March. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 We could do a weekend date in April. We'd love to be on a 'natural' team if we're allowed to score up with Fred! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'll give Paul a shout... I suspect that there would be plenty of time to schedule a convenient time for y'all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I'll give Paul a shout... I suspect that there would be plenty of time to schedule a convenient time for y'all... We got Paul Marston - Hugh Grosvenor as the anchor pair for team MOSCITO Not sure who the other pair is. Worst case, you'll be stuck with me and Free or the Hog, or maybe Echognome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 What a disaster! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 This should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 And I'll get commentators for the match if you want me to. However, there are a couple of problems: 1. At this point we don't know our full vugraph schedule for April.2. We can't prevent anyone from voicing their opinions in the team match area. We can in the VG theatre, but not as far as team matches are concerned. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 And I'll get commentators for the match if you want me to. However, there are a couple of problems: 1. At this point we don't know our full vugraph schedule for April.2. We can't prevent anyone from voicing their opinions in the team match area. We can in the VG theatre, but not as far as team matches are concerned. RolandLet people voice their opinions if they want. I don't see a major problem here: a. The big star matches with 500+ kibs that I've watched were totally OK in this regard so far. b. Moscito vs. Natural might not draw as many people as Fantunes for example; that will keep noise lower, too. c. Also I expect many kibs to be quite interested in the matter (i.e. less "random" kibitzers), leading to a higher expected discipline in my eyes; also it would be convenient for these people to be able to talk about what's happening. So I'm voting for having an open chat and rely on people not chatting into the room. --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 b. Moscito vs. Natural might not draw as many people as Fantunes for example; that will keep noise lower, too. Believe me, you are wrong. If Fred is playing, "all" of BBO will be watching. We have seen that on numerous occasions. If only specs would stick to bridge related issues, all would be fine. Sadly, we see all kinds of irrelevant nonsense too. No way we can stop that unless we boot one after the other. We have seen that happen before, unfortunately, and in my opinion this was a harsh thing to do. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Not sure who the other pair is. Worst case, you'll be stuck with me and Free or the Hog, or maybe Echognome... Sounds great -- on a related note, I too vote for the open chat unless we have a couple of Moscito experts willing to explain the auction as it unfolds and respond to queries.. Atul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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