Echognome Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=stxxxhjxxxdxxxcjx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(1♥) - P - (1NT)* - X(P) - 2♦ - (2♥) - X(P) - ?[/hv]*5+♠ Had this hand in a team's match last night. What's your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=stxxxhjxxxdxxxcjx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(1♥) - P - (1NT)* - X(P) - 2♦ - (2♥) - X(P) - ?[/hv]*5+♠ Had this hand in a team's match last night. What's your call? strongly disagree with second x at imps.unless partner promises 4s 110%.btw would take 2nt over 1nt as minors.....not silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I don't understand your comments at all Mike. I'm asking about this hand, not any of the others around the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I agree with 2D. I have no clue what to do next, I'm not rebidding xxx! I have seen the hands so it is hard to think about it objectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=stxxxhjxxxdxxxcjx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(1♥) - P - (1NT)* - X(P) - 2♦ - (2♥) - X(P) - ?[/hv]*5+♠ Had this hand in a team's match last night. What's your call? What system were E/W playing? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 What system were E/W playing? :D There were playing roughly 2/1, with the obvious addition of the kaplan inversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 sorry did not see 1nt as spades? let alone 5or 7 or 9 spades?=spades? what does 5+mean...5 spades.....12spades or what ? As usual the opp are telling us a half story..not the whole,100% story of what their bidding means!...If 1nt means 5 spades ....99% of the time ok...but that is not what they are saying?In any event 3d now? I still hate x of 2h. Just bid hand....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 The 1NT response shows 5 or more spades. I'm not entirely sure what Mike's problem is - 5+♠ seems to say "5 or more spades" fairly clearly to me... Partner's double is therefore the equivalent of 1H P 1S x i.e. initially shows both minors. Partner has shown an absolutely huge hand, and probably only 3 diamonds.I pass, but I'm not happy about this.I expect a balanced 19-20-count or so.I may well be -470 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 5+♠ obviously means "at least 5 ♠", it's quite standard treatment on conventioncards... I pass. If I had a decent hand I'd passed 1NT so partner should know I'm weak, he knows what my best minor suit is, so it can't be takeout dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 i would pass since the leading is from my hand, i see it's possibility to makt 2♥ up,but we will lost more if i escape.my partner's hand is 20HCPs and good control on major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 The one hope is that if we are -470 that we would've have been -500 if I bid. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I pass too, but am more sanguine about beating this. Opps may well be playing a 7 card fit at the two level with less than half the deck. If partner has good controls, you can beat this two tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Well LOTT fans can make a table for 14 trumps and 14 tricks ;) We in 3m They in 2♥ Bid Pass 9 5 +110 +500 8 6 -50 +300 7 7 -300 +100 6 8 -500 -470 5 9 -800 -570 Then a true LOTT-ian will notice that the scores in the Pass column are all better than those in the bid column etc. Of course with 15 total tricks it won't work out just like this but you can't have it all :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I can't do anything else than pass. Partner knows I'm weak and I've already give my preference in minor so I just hope I have a trump trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Ok Part II. You pass (as did I). What do you lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Torn between a trump and the club knave. Think I go with the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 4 small in opps side suit (spades here) is usually a warning: as we have length without honors in the sidesuit, usually dummy has AKQJx or similar and declarer is short. That means he can discard quickly losers on spades if we lead passively (e.g. a trump) We need to cashout the side suit winners and not play a waiting defense. So I'll go with the club Knave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 The 2♥ bid was voluntary, thus chances are we're not going to get rich defending. I bid 3♦. Having passed, the club jack seems fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I was west, Arend (cherdano) was east, and we were playing Ben's (inquiry's) system with some minor changes. Not sure why we get rolleyes for the Kaplan inversion. I believe that Kaplan inversion is not allowed at low level ACBL games, so perhaps some American players have not had much contact with it. We played 3 12-board matches against Matt and his regular f2f partner, this was a particularly interesting hand I thought. Looking back at it now I think that Matt was the only one who clearly made the right calls on this hand. Last week I also played with Arend against Matt, and after we only barely set their 2SX Matt told me: always lead trump against low level doubled contracts. I replied: I disagree, think before leading against low level doubled contracts. Fortunately Matt didn't listen :lol:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I have to go with Frances on this one (not a bad overall strategy on anyone). Partner has a moose, and I have four trumps. I too suspect parnter is shortish in diamonds (three) and has good clubs. I don't want to lead a heart, despite the "general strategy" to do so. Partner first double was takeout, so while he may have good hearts or spades, he was prepared for me to bid a minor. So he doesn't have spades and I don't have spades. I want to set our tricks up. The one suit partner has is clbus, and I am shortish there. I will start with an unimaginative jack of clubs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I lead ♣. Don't like my alternatives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Small would be sneaky, I will leave that to Zia. I will lead the ♣J. Han the ACBL wants to protect you from misunderstandings when they ban KI, can't you see that? Isn't that a noble cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 If opponents are playing some sort of standard-ish 5CM system, then RHO is likely to have a pile of rubbish, and LHO is 53 in the majors. That gives partner a singleton heart, which I don't think is consistent with the bidding (he should have cued, raised diamonds or bid clubs). So on the principle of trusting partner, perhaps LHO is 52 in the majors with Hx heart. That makes LHO 5233RHO 1543Partner 3235us 4432 that at least adds up.... (although then I don't know why partner didn't just bid 2C over 1NT. Perhaps he thought he was too strong) I don't see any hurry to lead trumps, because I don't see what declarer is going to ruff in the dummyI also lead the CJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 LHO 5233RHO 1543Partner 3235us 4432 close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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