inquiry Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sathat6d6caqj7654]133|100|Scoring: IMPBP0-007EWest North East South------------------1♣ (1♦) 2♦ (3♦) ?[/hv] One more open for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 BPO-007E: 3H I want partner to declare NT if he has a Diamond stopper. 3S wouldexpress doubts about the Heart suit. I wish that I didn't have toreserve double for business (I expect someone to suggest double toshow this hand). However, attaching an artificial meaning to thisdouble gives the opponents a license to steal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I also bid 3H, hoping that partner does not bid 3NT, then I get quite interested in 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 a dissenter with oppositional defiant disorder here. I selected a 4D bid. I need so little from P for 6 clubs and, at imps, 5C is OK when 3NT also makes. If P has wasted values in diamonds, perhaps I might be able to pitch a major suit loser somewhere. We have at least 11 clubs between us, likely 12. The strategy of a 3H bid is something that just didn't occur to me at the time. Not a bad idea at all, wish that I had thought of it, assuming that the opps now pass. Perhaps a dbl of 3D should be Thrump (just kidding). Another mean, rotten hand. DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwingo Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Will anyone tell me what would 4♣ be in this sequence. If it is RKC in ♣, I am all for bidding 4♣. The hand is too powerful to languish in 3NT. Since the meaning of 4♣ was not known, the only options left were 5♣ and 6♣. You would have guessed by know what I would choose. 6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4D. Clearly a splinter and forward going. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I wouldn't dream of stopping in 3NT on this hand. If partner has nothing wasted in diamonds I expect to be making a slam; if he has the DA in addition a grand could easily be on. Don't forget partner's 2D bid is very often made on 5-card support - with a 4-card major he bids it, with diamonds well stopped he bids 2NT/3NT. It doesn't sound as if he has 4 diamonds, so he either has 5 clubs or is exactly 3334. I'm just looking forward to dropping the singleton CK offside in my 12-card fit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 i see no reason to stem the tide of zeroes... 6♣ was my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 3♥ seems a pretty reasonable way forward. There's no way that I'm going to rest in 3NT here. I can see that 4♦ might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I chose 4♦ as I would think partner would read 3♥ or 3♠ as being a natural suit. If we're going to slam and partner has xx(x) in ♦'s, this is the only way I can get him interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 i see no reason to stem the tide of zeroes... 6♣ was my voteJimmy, you may well have the first perfect score ever recorded. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I chose 4♦ as I would think partner would read 3♥ or 3♠ as being a natural suit. If we're going to slam and partner has xx(x) in ♦'s, this is the only way I can get him interested. Give me a buzz if you need a partner some day :P Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4♦. Don't want to put pard off if he has a stiff heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4D-WTP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4D. 6♣ is probably the value bid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 That's funny. I can't remember what I bid here B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4C, to set trump and show slam interest (bypass 3N). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 4C, to set trump and show slam interest (by pass 3N).yo ;) The same here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 weird: 4♣ as forcing???? Sorry, I don't get it. 4♣ is an attempt to play the contact in 4♣, not a slam try. Unless, of course, it is gerber? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 I wanted to play the gerber-direct-king-exclusion convention, where 4C here asks for major suit kings, but I don't think that is yet part of BBO Advanced. 4C forcing would be a good call, but sadly it ain't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Very surprised that 4C is not forcing here.Partner made the bidding GF with his cue, 4C brings you above 3NT.For me 4C is forcing, interested in slem and asks partner to show controls....For Frances and Mike: is 4C not forcing because it is not defined in the bidding poll system as forcing OR do you really play 4C as not forcing in your partnerships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Very surprised that 4C is not forcing here.Partner made the bidding GF with his cue, 4C brings you above 3NT. The cue bid doesn't establish a game force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 weird: 4♣ as forcing???? Sorry, I don't get it. 4♣ is an attempt to play the contact in 4♣, not a slam try. Unless, of course, it is gerber? :DHello Mike :) Perhaps that is why you are a star and we are not...? I always appreciate your postings but I have some problems with this one because I miss more arguments. When I would be interested in 3NT, I would bid a major, showing feature(s), perhaps a natural suit. Bypassing 3NT is in my partnership(s) strongest slam interest and that is what I have here imo. Perhaps it is, like so often, a matter of agreement. But weird? Even for me 4♣ is not Gerber....Caren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Bypass 3NT to bid a LONG minor suit MUST be game forcing, UNLESS partners have confirmed no stoppers in opp's suit. Even if pd 2D is not game forcing, (s)he didn't deny a diamond stopper yet, at least. To voluntarily by-pass 3NT at this position being not game forcing doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 I do not understand this logic. How can 4clubs be game forcing slam try?I must either pass, bid 5clubs or make slam try? What do I do with just clubs and no interest in 3nt and non game force? I must pass or bid 3h or 3s with non game force hands? I really think a 3h or 3s bid must be game force and not just an ambiguous game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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