HeartA Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 AKQJT9 KQTxx Q x. You open 1S and partner bids 2C, 100% GF. What's your bid and what's your plan in general? Now that 2C is 100% GF, I would rebid 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I bid 3S, Gerber exclusion. :( How do I ask for aces without setting a suit; however, on a serious note, if I do bid 3S showing a solid suit, and follow that up with 4N, it should be exclusion for the remaining 6 keycards. If I bid 4C, I am either young and it's a Friday night or it's a Friday night and I am young. 4C is Ace-asking if you speak Stoli. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I admit I had not thought of 4♣, Gerber, but on reflection it seems best. Now, the next problem is after partner bids again: is 5♣ asking for Kings, or do we play sliding (or rolling) Gerber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 AKQJT9 KQTxx Q x. You open 1S and partner bids 2C, 100% GF. What's your bid and what's your plan in general?as 2♣ is 100%forcing I can just bid 2♥ --- confident that I can show my length and strength below 3NT :unsure: so if it goes 1♠ 2♣ 2♥ 3♣/♦ then I can rebid 3 ♥and if P then bids ANYTHING except 4♥ I will bid 4♠ (or KCB over 4♠) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Wait! All this confusion will be ended soon, Justin has offered to run a session on Gerber. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Of course, who in their right mind would open 1♠... don't you guys recongnize a true 2NT opener (6-5, 3 losers) when you see one. I can imagine a quick auction... I certainly recognise an Acol 2 in spades when I see one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 As long as he doesn't run a session on Gerben... Anyway, of course partner won't "get" 4♣! I'd think it would be Ace asking with ♣ set as trumps btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 2♥, for me [3♥ would be a splinter in support of clubs]. I do not play Gerber in such an auction (Gerber only during NT auctions witout fit; 4♣ here would be a RKC agreeing clubs). IMHO, even if I played Gerber, I'd not use it: if pard has 2 aces, which ones are they? The ♥A is worth 1 1/2 times the ♦ or ♣ ace. see what you've done you evil EVIL boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 We're in a GF auction, lets stay low: 2♥. And I expect partner to stay low as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 On the subject 4♣ in NT auctions, let me list some: STRONG NT:1NT - 4♣ = both majors, in combination with transfers. WEAK NT:4♣ shows slam interest in ♥, 4♦ in ♠ and 4M is natural. STAYMAN:1NT - 2♣ - 2M - 4♣ = Splinter1NT - 2♣ - 2♦ - 4♣ = Slam interest with long ♣ (usually 4M 6m hands) 2NT OPENING:2NT - 4♣ = Natural slam try (alternative use: both majors & texas transfers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Without agreement or with tomi2: 3♥, 5 - 5 and extra values. Partner will now bid 3NT.I will insist on majors by bidding 4♥ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I admit I had not thought of 4♣, Gerber, but on reflection it seems best. Now, the next problem is after partner bids again: is 5♣ asking for Kings, or do we play sliding (or rolling) Gerber? Progressive (sliding/rolling) Gerber is probably the best convention ever (or is it a treatment?). Ensuring that pard is as confused as the opps is the ultimate assurance that you get to play the hand all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I bid 4♦, which obviously can only be keycard rolling void-gerber :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysen2k Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hey, I play against a regular partnership that has the "4♣ always Gerber" agreement. They seem to like it... Not saying they get good results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysen2k Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I bid 4♦, which obviously can only be keycard rolling void-gerber :rolleyes:Shouldn't that be inverted keycard rolling void-gerber in this auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I bid 4♦, which obviously can only be keycard rolling void-gerber :rolleyes:Shouldn't that be inverted keycard rolling void-gerber in this auction? Yes, my bad. Inverted 4130 responses, of course :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I bid 4♦, which obviously can only be keycard rolling void-gerber :rolleyes:Shouldn't that be inverted keycard rolling void-gerber in this auction? Yes, my bad. Inverted 4130 responses, of course :P I prefer the version with 7 keycards (excluding the K of trump because you can never be sure what suit is trump).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysen2k Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Yes, my bad. Inverted 4130 responses, of course :rolleyes:1430 when the stronger hand bids it, 3041 when the weaker hand does. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Yes, my bad. Inverted 4130 responses, of course :P1430 when the stronger hand bids it, 3041 when the weaker hand does. B) No. 4♣ = normal keycard rolling void-gerber4♦ = inverted keycard rolling void-gerber Simple, no? Bridge is simple when you use gerber :rolleyes: /sarcasm off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 You guys have to learn your conventions properly. 4♦ is either progressive exclusion keycard gerber or progressive rolling kickback keycard gerber. As to responses, the last time I played these treatments, we used 3104 responses, in order to maximize the confusion... or was it 1340... I forget. All I can say is that I look forward to Justin's lecture... altho some of these treatments are older than he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 This sequence is too simple for words. 1S-2C: 4C is Exclusion Gerber - roll with it.4D is Redwood for one of two previously bid suits or it is natural and weak.4H is kickback for one of the unbid suits or a stopper ask.4S is RKC for any suit not previously mentioned or bid or implied.4N is Unbid takeout, general slam try, or general enthusiam signifying nothing.5C is either Exclusion or sign off, depending on how quickly it is bid. I play this with all my pick up partners. :P Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yes, my bad. Inverted 4130 responses, of course :P1430 when the stronger hand bids it, 3041 when the weaker hand does. B) No. 4♣ = normal keycard rolling void-gerber4♦ = inverted keycard rolling void-gerber Simple, no? Bridge is simple when you use gerber :P /sarcasm off I prefer mixed keycard: 4310 or 1043... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Is that like "our leads are 1st 2nd 3rd 4th" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Is that like "our leads are 1st 2nd 3rd 4th" ? you forgot 5th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Oh my god what did I do. I would bid 2♥, but I think 3♠, planning to RCKB next round is also practical. It is basically gambling on ♥J with partner or onside, and no heart ruff. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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