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[hv=d=n&v=b&s=sa42hq8dqj642cqj3]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Partner opens 1C in first seat and East overcalls 2H.

 

1C-2H-?[/hv]

 

What will you do now? Double? Bid 3D? Pass? Bid 3C? Bid 3H? Seems about the only 2 calls available that don't endplay partner into a forced 3N are double and 3C. And do you really want to force partner to bid 3N on Kx of hearts?

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horrible hand, and good example of why people play weak jump overcalls.

 

3 is a gross overbid, but I am red at imps and I want partner to play 3N if it is biddable: why should he hold Kx rather than Ax or Kxx (both are good for a tempo) or Axx...?

 

Of course, when the worst bid one can hear is a raise..... poor partner looking at KQx Jx Axx Kxxxx: bids 4... now what??? Is this passable... ie should he always bid 3 (or splinter with 4) with gf raises, pulling 3N to 4 with a big hand?

 

I bet that in the BW MSC, double would get the most votes, but I really don't like it.

 

So I make the gross overbid: 3

 

BTW, a great advertisement for playing weak 1N in 1st and 2nd red: I do in one partnership, and it would be a relief to know that partner was not 11-14 balanced :) Whereas I suspect he is and I hate it.

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horrible hand, and good example of why people play weak jump overcalls.

 

3 is a gross overbid, but I am red at imps and I want partner to play 3N if it is biddable: why should he hold Kx rather than Ax or Kxx (both are good for a tempo) or Axx...?

 

Of course, when the worst bid one can hear is a raise..... poor partner looking at KQx Jx Axx Kxxxx: bids 4... now what??? Is this passable... ie should he always bid 3 (or splinter with 4) with gf raises, pulling 3N to 4 with a big hand?

 

I bet that in the BW MSC, double would get the most votes, but I really don't like it.

 

So I make the gross overbid: 3

 

BTW, a great advertisement for playing weak 1N in 1st and 2nd red: I do in one partnership, and it would be a relief to know that partner was not 11-14 balanced :) Whereas I suspect he is and I hate it.

hi , could you tell me what is <BW MSC> meaning?

thanks

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BTW, a great advertisement for playing weak 1N in 1st and 2nd red: I do in one partnership, and it would be a relief to know that partner was not 11-14 balanced :) Whereas I suspect he is and I hate it.

I'd rather he could have a weak NT this time, and not have to wonder if he has a strong NT when I am dealt a similar hand two or three points weaker...

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hi , could you tell me what is <BW MSC> meaning?

thanks

The Master Solvers Club in the Bridge World: a great forum for bidding issues

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[hv=s=sq73hk2d103cak9842]133|100|[/hv]

 

Time for the rest of the story - this was partner's hand and 8 tricks at NT is the maximum. At the table, I made a negative doulbe, not liking it a lot but liking 3D even less, and LHO raised to 3H and passed back to me - it sounded to me as if partner was most likely to hold a 3235 pattern with 12-ish and we didn't rate to have game our way so I elected to simply pass and try to go plus. Turns out we lost a couple of imps as our partners defended 3N for plus 100.

 

In retrospect, I really think the best bid on this hand is the 3 club underbid - this is most likely to get partner excited with the right hand and as Eddie Kantar used to preach to Billy Eisenberg, "When they preempt I don't have short clubs!".

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[hv=s=sq73hk2d103cak9842]133|100|[/hv]

 

Time for the rest of the story - this was partner's hand and 8 tricks at NT is the maximum. At the table, I made a negative doulbe, not liking it a lot but liking 3D even less, and LHO raised to 3H and passed back to me - it sounded to me as if partner was most likely to hold a 3235 pattern with 12-ish and we didn't rate to have game our way so I elected to simply pass and try to go plus. Turns out we lost a couple of imps as our partners defended 3N for plus 100.

 

In retrospect, I really think the best bid on this hand is the 3 club underbid - this is most likely to get partner excited with the right hand and as Eddie Kantar used to preach to Billy Eisenberg, "When they preempt I don't have short clubs!".

Pass, why bid if partner opens lightish.

3H if partner opens sound.

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True - but with Kxx, Kx, xxx, AKxxx there are still only 8 tricks and now 3H doesn't make.   ;)

 

Winston

it doesnt? We get 2 clubs a spade and a heart.

2S, 2C, and a heart

good point :P I usually lose a trick with my AKs :P

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thank mikeh, could you tell me the <http> of Master Solvers Club in the Bridge World?ty

The Bridge World is a print magazine, you have to subscribe to it. It's well worth it, it is THE bridge magazine on this planet. I learned a lot from reading it, and half only been doing so for less than a year. There is still a special offer in the lobby news of BBO, I think. On their website, they have only a couple of samplers. (www.bridgeworld.com)

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thank mikeh, could you tell me the <http> of Master Solvers Club in the Bridge World?ty

The Bridge World is a print magazine, you have to subscribe to it. It's well worth it, it is THE bridge magazine on this planet. I learned a lot from reading it, and half only been doing so for less than a year. There is still a special offer in the lobby news of BBO, I think. On their website, they have only a couple of samplers. (www.bridgeworld.com)

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Well, this is a very simple problem for me: over 2, I would just bid 2NT.

 

Yes, I might see opps taking out the first 6-7 tricks if pard passes this, but in all other cases pard will have a clear pic of what I have and can rise to the occasion. Besides, if he's worried about stoppers, he can always cue 3 to check if my "stopper" is a joke or not :rolleyes:

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