pclayton Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=b&s=saxxhkj8xxd108xcjt]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] East passes as do you. 1♦ on left, 2♣ by pard, pass on your right. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I vote for 2H, this shouldn't get us into too much trouble and hearts is our most likely game. Are Rubens advances not standard yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 2H New Year's resolution, no more missing vul games at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 2H... game in NT or hearts is still possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I voted for 2♥, but it really depends on who partner is. Playing with Elianna I'd pass, because I've seen the junk she overcalls 2♣ over 1♦ with. But opposite most players (including someone who bids like me) I think 2♥ is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 2♥ lets all options open and I have JT in ♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 2♥ - a minimum, but some tolerance for clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I bid 2♥ as well, which I thought was 100%. I had a kibitzer mention that he thought I should pass, but he was looking at partner's crud: ♠xx ♥Tx ♦AQJx ♣A97xx, and he admitted he was biased. So I guess this was just a reality check of sorts :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I bid 2♥ as well, which I thought was 100%. I had a kibitzer mention that he thought I should pass, but he was looking at partner's crud: ♠xx ♥Tx ♦AQJx ♣A97xx, and he admitted he was biased. So I guess this was just a reality check of sorts :P Granted I see these types of 2club overcalls all the time on BBO. Is this really a standard overcall in this situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 "Granted I see these types of 2club overcalls all the time on BBO. Is this really a standard overcall in this situation?" I don't know if there is a "BBO Standard" for anything. That said, I would pass when vul (as in this hand), but bid 2C when not. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 hii bid 3C because partner cant have crud like that for a 2-level overcall .. the casino is next door Rgds DOG :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 "...the casino is next door" No, it's right here :P Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I bid 2H as well. BTW, with my pard we respond to pard's 2C overcall as if hehad opened a Precision 2C (e.g. 2M inv Nonforcing, 2D Staymanic relay).Any opinion on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 "BTW, with my pard we respond to pard's 2C overcall as if hehad opened a Precision 2C (e.g. 2M inv Nonforcing, 2D Staymanic relay).Any opinion on this ?" Interesting. How does it work for you? How do you show a good hand with a 5cM? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Is there a good online description of Rubens advance or transfer advances? I run into this situation frequently-- a hand worth saying something, but no real fit for partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Hi everyone Assuming partner is cold sober, 2H is automatic. If partner bids on crud, pass is in order. The conditions were listed as IMPs. Note to self, find another partner ASAP 'if' they overcall 2Cs on crud. Rubens advances are not standard. I do think that playing Precision type 2C methods is possible but not the best method to respond to a 2C overcall at IMPs. A 2C overcall should have slightly better values than a Precision type 2C opening as a minimum and something like a King more as a possible top holding. I play a Big Club system with a 2C Precision type(promises 6+ Cs) opening. Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 "BTW, with my pard we respond to pard's 2C overcall as if hehad opened a Precision 2C (e.g. 2M inv Nonforcing, 2D Staymanic relay).Any opinion on this ?" Interesting. How does it work for you? How do you show a good hand with a 5cM? Peter Probably bidding 2♦, and then the 5cM (forcing). It is an interesting approach, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 ............... Note to self, find another partner ASAP 'if' they overcall 2Cs on crud. ....... Oh I won't be dumping this pard anythime soon. We've played on here since almost the beginning of BBO. He has his good days and bad days (who doesn't). I agree - this overcall flat sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 "BTW, with my pard we respond to pard's 2C overcall as if hehad opened a Precision 2C (e.g. 2M inv Nonforcing, 2D Staymanic relay).Any opinion on this ?" Interesting. How does it work for you? How do you show a good hand with a 5cM? Peter I love this idea, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Assuming partner is cold sober, 2H is automatic.<snip>I do think that playing Precision type 2C methods is possible but not the best method to respond to a 2C overcall at IMPs. A 2C overcall should have slightly better values than a Precision type 2C opening as a minimum and something like a King more as a possible top holding. I play a Big Club system with a 2C Precision type(promises 6+ Cs) opening. Regards, Robert FWIW I'm no expert, as I have said before, but I disagree. 2♣ has an advantage over 1♦ in as much as it preempts the entire 1-level. I don't think any more strength is required than for a precision 2♣ opening. In fact, my only problem with such a treatment is that a 2♣ overcall of 1♦ may turn out to be weaker than a typical 2♣ opening in precision. I would be quite happy to overcall 1♦ with x xxx QJx AKxxxx. That's just an example hand, and it may be that you would open a precision 2♣ with this, but I would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Partner must have thought he was playing matchpoints - although there are a couple of situations where you should slightly stretch to overcall: 1C-1S and 1D-2C, the emphasis is on the slightly and not the stretch. I like to play a new suit by advancer after partner's 2/1 overcall like basic 10+ bridge, i.e., advancer's bid is forcing for 1 round. However, this method is unplayable unless you can count on solid overcalls, especially in the minors. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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