Simple question

[jahol]

Would you open the bidding with

 

KJ6532--KJ543--65--void?

 

Would you open with

 

KJ6532--AJ543--65--void?

 

First chair, both non-vulnerable, board a match, very good opponents, you are loosing heavily at the time of getting this hand.

 

You bid simple natural common one-suit weak two.

 

 

jahol

[Gerben42]

You will get some different answers on this, that you can be sure of. This is what I think.

 

KJ6532--KJ543--65--void?

 

Easy pass.

 

KJ6532--AJ543--65--void?

 

Close. 1♠ but will regret doing so if partner wants to double something.

 

Okay you got me! I opened with less than 10 HCP :P

[mike777]

Pass with both.

 

I have less than 14 pts, wtp?

I have less than 10 hcp, wtp?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

more important than your weak two style,

would be your general system (2/1, SAYC,

Precision, ...) and what kind of 2-suiter

overcall you play in competition.

 

I pass, because I hope, I will sell this hand

better with an delayed action, this stratgy can

backfire, but it can also work.

In general: If you play specific 2-suited overcalls,

pass gets more attractive.

 

The state of the match is irrelevant, I

have never played board a match.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[joker_gib]

I also pass both and will act later showing the 2 suiter.

 

I'm sure Ben and other Zar fans will open this. ;)

 

Alain

[helene_t]

2♠ followed by a free 4♥ might be an option, but then partner has to understand that 4♥ is a second suit and not primarily lead-directing.

[Robert]

Hi everyone

 

Alvin Roth says to open weak two bids with 6-5 shape and rebid the second suit when the auction comes back to you(if a reasonable chance is available)

 

I do not believe that either hand will be passed out in 2Ss.

 

Partner should be informed of your bidding methods, before you try this one. ;)

 

Regards,

Robert

[inquiry]

I would open both hands.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi everyone

 

Alvin Roth says to open weak two bids with 6-5 shape and rebid the second suit when the auction comes back to you(if a reasonable chance is available)

 

I do not believe that either hand will be passed out in 2Ss.

 

Partner should be informed of your bidding methods, before you try this one. ;)

 

Regards,

Robert

This weak two style is also advocated by the Granovetters,

but then: At least Matthew Granovetter was heavily influenced

by Alvin Roth, at least if I remember correctly, I think

Matthew Granovetter wrote the foreword to "Picture Bidding",

and said something, which made me believe this.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Blofeld]

I would definitely open the second hand (1♠ ; I hate 2♠) and I'm close to opening the first, though I think I pass. State of match considerations might incline me rather to open, though.

[Chamaco]

Pass first hand unless play weak 2suited openings.

But, playing BAM, and being behind in the match, first seat, nonvuln, opening it would be an acceptable gamble (ready to apologize to pard if this backfires).

 

I open the second hand 1 spade in any seat/vuln.

[whereagles]

I quite a bit of guesswork to know whether pass or opening some nr. of spades is going to work out better. I would leave a final decision to considerations of the tactical situation at table.

[mike777]

I quite a bit of guesswork to know whether pass or opening some nr. of spades is going to work out better. I would leave a final decision to considerations of the tactical situation at table.

I prefer the Marine's style of tactics. Jump on them with as much as you got as fast as you can. Let the Army do the fancy dancy fire and manuever stuff.

[pclayton]

Pass the 1st; open the 2nd.

 

And its not because its one point better; its because I have an ace instead of a King. I still pass: KJxxxx, KQxxx, xx, void (but its close).

[mikeh]

I pass the first hand and open the second 1♠. I would not be surprised to lose the first board if my opp at the other table chose to open, but, try as I might, I still cannot bring myself to open either 1 or 2♠ with the first hand. I might well open 2♠ if my side suit were a minor, but it is too dangerous with ♥ (I'd bid again if I opened a weak two if at all possible)

[Fluffy]

With hand 1 I would open 2♦ with one of my partners (major 2 suiter) and 1♠ with the others.

 

With hand 2 Iwould probably open 1♠ with both

[Al_U_Card]

What is pard expecting? I use the rule of 20 with most but some insist on 2 or 2 and a half defensive tricks for an opening bid. Generally I would pass the first and open the second.

[jahol]

OK, let us forget the previous discussion for a moment and let us look at the other side of the problem.

 

Third chair, both non-vulnerable, board a match, very good opponents, you are loosing heavily at the time of getting this hand. You have:

 

x---x---Axxx---KQJxxxx.

 

The bidding goes pass---pass. Your opening bid?

[P_Marlowe]

OK, let us forget the previous discussion for a moment and let us look at the other side of the problem.

 

Third chair, both non-vulnerable, board a match, very good opponents, you are loosing heavily at the time of getting this hand. You have:

 

x---x---Axxx---KQJxxxx.

 

The bidding goes pass---pass. Your opening bid?

Hi,

 

depends 1C or 4C.

 

The 4C bid is a bit heavy, so most likely 1C,

but I would definitly think over 4C.

According to my rules even 5C is possible,

but I am very reluctnt to open on the 5 level.

 

Marlowe

[whereagles]

OK, let us forget the previous discussion for a moment and let us look at the other side of the problem.

 

Third chair, both non-vulnerable, board a match, very good opponents, you are loosing heavily at the time of getting this hand. You have:

 

x---x---Axxx---KQJxxxx.

 

The bidding goes pass---pass. Your opening bid?

I'm losing heavily? Then I need a swing. I'll try a bit of 'walking the dog'. Pass now and cover their major-suit bid later.

[Fluffy]

I would bid many clubs, 3 or 4 (I sadly play 4♣ as artificial)

[Kalvan14]

I'd open 2♥ (hearts + spades) with my normal partner.

Without this gadget, or a similar one, I'd open 1♠

 

The 2nd hand is an easy 1♠.

 

The minor 2-suiter: in my system is a 2NT (5-5 in the minors, or 6 clubs-4 diamonds). In a pick-up partnership, 4♣ if available as pre-empt

[Winstonm]

As long as the spade suit is the longer suit I don't see a problem with opening either hand - it's impossible to show this pattern in one bid by passing and backing back in; however, with 56 pattern I would pass and hope to be able to Michael's the hand as with a preference partner will bid heart with 2/2 patterns.

 

I think the worry about partner doubling is overblown - at least at imps. At MPs I may want to pass these hands in deference to this possiblity though.

 

Winston

[mike777]

If Roth opens 2s...cool...but can someone site a source?

[Gerben42]

2♠ with FIVE Hearts? I can't really believe that. BTW I open the other hand all white with 4♣.