adhoc3 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=saxhktxxxdkqxcakx&s=sxxxhaqjda98xxcxx]133|200|Scoring: IMPpass--1♥2♣A--3♣3♦----3♠4♥----4NT5♠A--5NT6♥----pass 7♥ took chance of 60%+, would you bid 7? and how? BTW, do you agree with south's initial pass? [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I would pass south hand but would expect 80 % of experts to open it. I would also open 2N so then would have no hope of bidding 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hate to say that this hand works much better with a big club system. To get to 7 hearts in a natural system, you need to open S hand (which is not so out: 11 HCP, with 2 As and a 5-card suit). Otherwise you will have difficulties in telling N that: you have a max for a passed handyou have a fit in heartsyou have a diamond suitOTOH, you need diamonds 3-2 for a grand (plus a few cases with a fav 4-1). The grand should be around 73-74%, which is not bad at all, but maybe not good enough. The best solution to get there is not playing Drury :) If it goes P-1♥-2♦ N should be much more active, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Kalvan14: The best solution to get there is not playing Drury It also helps if you have a more sensible response method to Drury. 1H-2C2D* *I'm interested. Relay me back to the major and I'll tell you why.2N* *I'm interested in slam opposite a limit raise. With this approach, the acution can be:1H-2C2N-3H* *Excellent hearts3S-4D5D-5H6D-7D7H. However, I would have opened 2N like Justin and had no chance - would feel fortunate to get to 6. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi, I would have passed as South, and I wouldnot have reached 7H. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Well, I think South's hand is worth an upgrade to 12 points due to the mildly good 5 card suit, the concentrated honors in hearts and 2 aces. Also, opening 1♦ might make it harder for opps to bid clubs. But even if South opens, I think it would be hard to reach 7♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 The grand is on because South has a 5th diamond, and the suit can be set up for a spades discard. Unless the methods you use can find out about the 5th diamond, I think it's more reasonable to settle for the small slam. BTW, I'd open south's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I can see this working nicelly ps-1♥2♣-2NT (GF obviously)3♦-............-7♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi, I would have passed as South, and I wouldnot have reached 7H. Marlowe Agree ! I would have played 6♥ after a 2NT opening and a puppet like sequence. Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I can see this working nicelly ps-1♥2♣-2NT (GF obviously) Is 2NT really a GF opposite a passed hand pard ? I have always played such kind of sequence as invitational, nonforcing, say a good 13/14 hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I will have opened south's hand 1♦ (26 zar points (11 distributional, 11 hcp, 4 control). And, as most know here, with side weak doubleton and three card support, I would have raised 1♥ response to 2♥. It would be very hard, given this start to stop short of 7♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Unless the methods you use can find out about the 5th diamond, I think it's more reasonable to settle for the small slam. Yes. To bid 7 without knowing of the 5th diamond is a bit of a shot. Some shots are worth taking, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Unless the methods you use can find out about the 5th diamond, I think it's more reasonable to settle for the small slam. Yes. To bid 7 without knowing of the 5th diamond is a bit of a shot. Some shots are worth taking, though. Indeed, but playing the odds is generally the best way to reduce losses in the long run ( including losing partners LOL) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I can see this working nicelly ps-1♥2♣-2NT (GF obviously) Is 2NT really a GF opposite a passed hand pard ? I have always played such kind of sequence as invitational, nonforcing, say a good 13/14 hand. Sorry, should had alerted 2♣, it is drury-fit. And every uncontested auction where opener rebids 2NT is GF BTW :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhoc3 Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 An suggested process: pass---1♥2♣*A---2♦ *Reverse Drury3♦----4♣4♦----4NT5♠A----5NT6♦----7♥ Since south passed, so it's ok bidding 6D showing extra length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 You cannot count 13 tricks on any auction except perhaps relaying and even then it might be pushing it. I wouldn't lose sleep about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 The grand is on because South has a 5th diamond~snip~ Unless the methods you use can find out about the 5th diamond, yes, it's good to have such methods, eh? in the relay precision from gerben's site (assuming south passes) p : 1c2d : 2h3d : 3h (3352 : control ask)4c : 4d (4 : spiral scan)etc but i agree with gerben that missing the grand shouldn't cause a p'ship to fall apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 You cannot count 13 tricks on any auction except perhaps relaying and even then it might be pushing it. I wouldn't lose sleep about this one. It doesn't seem that complicated to show ♥AQ,♦A and 5 ♦ after a drury sequence, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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