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Erkson

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I could not watch the first day of German National Team Qualification (yesterday, october the 4th)

Please, if you got the .lin files, send them to me (I will give you my email address by private message).

 

Thanks in advance

 

A few weeks ago I asked for some other files (offering mine in exchange) and didn't get a single one ! ???

Nobody watches the matches ?

Nobody knows that the files are saved on his hard disk ? Nobody gets a few minutes to write a private message ?

If it is the case, it is URGENT TO CREATE A .LIN FILE REPOSITORY somewhere (the swiss web site is only interested in international matches).

Please, if you watched the matches, don't let the .lin files to get lost in cyberspace.

 

Erkson

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Hi

I will send you what I have from Segments 2,3 &4. Unfortunately the lin records are very incomplete. I'm not sure why this is so. The vugraph operators appeared to have some technical difficulties. Although I was logged in continuously (but not watching all the time), I repeatedly got logged off with the message that the vugraph had finished - when this was NOT so.

 

I was under the impression from previous posts that if I am logged into a vugraph session when the last board is completed, that I should have a complete record of the session as a lin file on my hard drive. This has clearly not happened. Whether this is due to particular problems with yesterday's sessions or is a fault with 3.4.12 I can't say.

 

rgds

Denis

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I will send you what I have from Segments 2,3 &4.

 

Thank you, Denis. Your e-mail arrived OK.

 

Unfortunately the lin records are very incomplete. I'm not sure why this is so. The vugraph operators appeared to have some technical difficulties.

Although I was logged in continuously (but not watching all the time), I repeatedly got logged off with the message that the vugraph had finished - when this was NOT so.

 

I was under the impression from previous posts that if I am logged into a vugraph session when the last board is completed, that I should have a complete record of the session as a lin file on my hard drive. This has clearly not happened. Whether this is due to particular problems with yesterday's sessions or is a fault with 3.4.12 I can't say.

 

 

Yes, the operators may have problems, and we miss some hands.

 

Your segment 2 and 3 are complete.

Segment 4 is incomplete.

 

So we still need segment 1 and 4.

 

I am watching segment 5, and every minute a message pops up telling me that segment 5 is over, and the program stores on my hard disk an incomplete file.

The cause is disconnection from Germany. After each disconnection the program believes that the match is over, and stores the .lin file as if it was actually the match end.

But I see that it is going on and I return to the match. If I wasn't actually watching and able to reconnect I would get an incomplete file.

 

There is a lot of "amateurism" involved, and we must deal with it.

 

In another post I mentionned a problem with the "A==", "A++" and "A--" result tags (averages rulings) like we had with "Pass".

 

You can ask me for a vugraph file of any BBO tournaments

(if hands are in /myhands, and results in /tourneyresults. I build them fastly ! For instance I build vugraphs of Abalucy tournaments.

 

Regards.

Erkson

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Here is the 3rd segment result part :

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vg|German Qualification,Segment 3,I,1,32,Reps,60,Mavridis,42|

rs|6NN=,6NNc,4HW-1,4HE-1,4HS=,4SEc,3CW=,2SWc,2SS+2,2SS-1,1NSx+1,2DW-1,3HS-1,3HS-1,6DS+1,6DN+1,5DNx-3,3NE+1,3NW-1,2HE+2,6SW=,6SWc,1NW-1,2DS-2,3CE=,2CE+1,4SS-1,3HNc,3NW+2,3NW+2,4SSx-2,4HE+1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,|

 

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The viewer doesn't display it because of the "c" of "6NNc". I never met this "c" in a result. It is probably the german version of "x" ! :)

 

Erkson

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More errors in result line :

 

When the german (?) operator types, for instance, 3NEx, he means 3NE= >:)

 

The software understands "3NT played by East, doubled, and undetermined number of tricks".

 

Erkson

 

In the next version:

 

1) The operator will not be able to enter a result

unless he uses the proper syntax.

 

2) The part of the program that prints the scoreboard

will be more forgiving of syntax errors and try to

display a result anyway (instead of a blank space).

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

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In the next version:

 

1) The operator will not be able to enter a result

unless he uses the proper syntax.

 

Very good precaution.

 

2) The part of the program that prints the scoreboard

will be more forgiving of syntax errors and try to

display a result anyway (instead of a blank space).

 

I wouldn't ask for this second mesure because :

for future .lin files it is useless because 1st mesure will be effective and it will be impossible to enter a senseless result

 

and for anterior files it is dangerous because it will find a sense to an erroneous syntax and display a result (the exact one ?) instead of a blank. The advantage of the blank is to call the attention on a problem. It is easy and more accurate to correct manually.

 

Erkson

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In the next version:

 

1) The operator will not be able to enter a result

unless he uses the proper syntax.

 

Very good precaution.

 

2) The part of the program that prints the scoreboard

will be more forgiving of syntax errors and try to

display a result anyway (instead of a blank space).

 

I wouldn't ask for this second mesure because :

for future .lin files it is useless because 1st mesure will be effective and it will be impossible to enter a senseless result

 

and for anterior files it is dangerous because it will find a sense to an erroneous syntax and display a result (the exact one ?) instead of a blank. The advantage of the blank is to call the attention on a problem. It is easy and more accurate to correct manually.

 

Erkson

 

I think what I have done is fairly safe. If the

contract is in the proper form, but there is no

proper indication of the number of tricks taken,

it is assumed the contract made exactly.

 

This will not be an issue for .lin files that are

created in the future (since these kinds of

syntax errors will never appear).

 

It will correct things for .lin files created in the

past (where it was difficult if not impossible to

create any kind of syntax error other than the

one that deals with a contract making exactly).

 

Fred

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