MP thinking

[mike777]

x=xx=KQJTxxx=QTx

 

1S=P=1NT=(2H)

X=P==3D=P

P=(3H)=?

 

MP Vul vs NV.

 

What should my MP thinking be over 3H?

1nt=semi-force

x=cooperative double

[luke warm]

i think you might be out of luck no matter what you do, but since you play coop x's here, i guess i'd bid 4♦... my bidding so far has shown nothing, 4♦ at least says i have a little more than that.. i don't think i'm defensive enough to x and i think pass is bad at mps

[Robert]

Hello everyone

 

Could you explain some more details about what your cooperative double shows here? If it is a random hand with 1-4 hearts and does not promise 'extra two way values', you pretty much have to make a blind guess.

 

My double here would show 5134 5143 or 6133 or 5233 with 'extra' values.

 

You should bid opposite one of my doubles since they have a 9-10 card fit. and your partnership hold 10-11 diamonds. Your defense is quite modest for the 'raw' point count.

 

If your partner 'cooperative' double might have 3-4 hearts, your defensive chances are much improved. Your ability to judge the hand better is impaired 'if' partner can hold too many random type hands.

 

Doubling 3H for a one trick set gets you +100, since you rated to make 3Ds for 110 that is likely to be a poor result. :)

 

I suspect that you should bid 4D and try to make a slightly above average score for +130. If you go down, you might wish to talk to partner about his cooperative double 'shape/values.'

 

Holding seven diamonds, defending a 3H contract offers little chance for a decent score. I would be much more worried about missing a 5D contract. If your partner holds four Aces, you are likely to make 5Ds.

 

If he is making a cooperative double with less than 16-17+HCP with decent controls, he is making a desperate gamble that you will have the values/shape to do something 'smart.'

 

Playing MPs 'if' you think that doubling and beating the other pair one trick will be a poor result, it causes the odds to shift heavily towards bidding higher with any reasonable hope.

 

If the other pair was vulnerable, doubling and beating them 'one trick' should be at least an average plus and may well be a top. +200 beats all normal partscore results. :P

 

If you think that the other pair has a 'death wish' and that they will go down two tricks, that result should be a top or near top 'if' you double and beat them two tricks. I just do not see that as a likely result on this hand. :P

 

Best regards,

Robert

[whereagles]

Seems like a partscore deal. My hand makes at best 1 trick on defense, so I might as well try 4♦. Opps probably won't have the guts to double this, so I'm playing for +130 or -100.

[han]

I would have bid 4D last round. I'm still bidding it now.

[ArcLight]

How will the opponents make 9 tricks?

How will you make 10?

 

I think your side should make a penalty double.

If the opps make their contract, you get a bad score in any case.

Setting them 2 Doubled = great score

Setting them 1 Doubled = poor score if you can make a partscore and other tables are allowed to play in 3 diamonds. Maybe their 3 H bid has found the winning sacrafice.

 

But maybe the misfit between you and pard means LET THE OPPS HAVE THE COUNTRACT, DOUBLED. They may have handed you a top.

[luke warm]

a coop x should say "i have more defense than my bidding shows to this point, and no distributional or other reason to bid"... a pass says "i pretty much have exactly what i said i had" and a bid says "i have some distributional or other reason to bid one more"

 

going by those, i think bidding 4♦ should work out best in the long run, and that's what mps is all about

[000002]

after rho passed, i suggest 3♥ cue-bid, then back 4♦ except for 3nt by partner.

[Robert]

Hello everyone

 

000002 has a good way to bid the hand. Cuebid 3H and pass 3NT if partner bids that, if not bid 4Ds.

 

Regards,

Robert