Echognome Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=skq98hakdajxcaqtx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P) - 1♦* - (1NT)** - 3♦***(P) - ?[/hv]*17+ hcp, any shape**Majors or Minors***6+ diamonds, at least 2 of the top 3 honours, no outside A or K, no voids. You are playing in the second round of a national knockout teams. You are dealt this monster and a bit surprised when they come in over your strong diamond (usually when you are big and balanced the opponents remain silent). What is your call now? 3♥/3♠/4♣ would be natural3NT would be to play4♦ would be a slam try asking for singletons5♦/6♦ would be to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 3nt Mr. Conservative as usual. I hope this shows around 17-20 Working HCP and stoppers in the majors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4NT looks right, invitational. Partner needs just an extra trick to bid on besides his promised KQxxxx in diamonds. A 7th diamond, the club king, the spade Ace, are all sufficient for him to make another call. I doubt he would value for the Qxx of hearts or the spade jack, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4NT looks right, invitational. Partner needs just an extra trick to bid on besides his promised KQxxxx in diamonds. A 7th diamond, the club king, the spade Ace, are all sufficient for him to make another call. I doubt he would value for the Qxx of hearts or the spade jack, however. In given problem responder has denied outside ace or k, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I just bid 6♦. Given lefty has majors, I am willing to gamble on the club finesse. Hence I can count 11 tricks, and the 12th might come via the ♠A lead, ♥Q, heart ruff, spade endplay with 10 in dummy, 7th diamond, major suit squeeze, or if all fails the double finesse in clubs. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 If he only has 6 diamonds I don't see that slam can be better than the club finesse, and may be worse. A singleton club opposite gives too many major suit cards: either there is a spade ruff or I have too many hearts to ruff. A seventh diamond would make all the difference. Is there some way to find out diamond length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4NT looks right, invitational. Partner needs just an extra trick to bid on besides his promised KQxxxx in diamonds. A 7th diamond, the club king, the spade Ace, are all sufficient for him to make another call. I doubt he would value for the Qxx of hearts or the spade jack, however. In given problem responder has denied outside ace or k, yes? Ok.. so now we look for a sevnth or eight diamond then... who has time to read ALL the problem (well, I read it, I just forgot by the time I wade across all the "other" bids... age I guess). ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=skq98hakdajxcaqtx]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P) - 1♦* - (1NT)** - 3♦***(P) - ?[/hv]*17+ hcp, any shape**Majors or Minors***6+ diamonds, at least 2 of the top 3 honours, no outside A or K, no voids. You are playing in the second round of a national knockout teams. You are dealt this monster and a bit surprised when they come in over your strong diamond (usually when you are big and balanced the opponents remain silent). What is your call now? 3♥/3♠/4♣ would be natural3NT would be to play4♦ would be a slam try asking for singletons5♦/6♦ would be to play Nasty hand... You have lots of controls and at least two entries to dummy in either 6♦ or 6NT. At the same time, I don't see all that many winners. LHO is sitting on bother majors and can happily lead hearts all day long. I think that slam will depend on bringing the Club suit in for no losers which doesn't seem too likely. If you have a nice unambiguous way to invite slam in NT, I might consider it. Otherwise, I'm bidding a wimpy 3N. As Francis suggests, it would be VERY nice to be able to clarify extra length in Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I basically agree with everything that's been written so far, and I still don't know what to bid. I must be really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The 1N overcall is clearly for majors. This should be good for the clubs finesse(s).With 11 tricks, I'll go with Cherdano: 6♦.Why complicate a simple hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 i'd bid 6♦ also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The 1N overcall is clearly for majors. This should be good for the clubs finesse(s).With 11 tricks, I'll go with Cherdano: 6♦.Why complicate a simple hand? I don't see 11 tricks... 1 Spade +2 Hearts +6 Diamonds +1 Club looks like 10 tricks to me Its all fine and dandy to plan on ruffing a Heart, but that requires transport to dummy. In turn, that requires leading a low Diamond from hand and then ruffing with the Jack... If the Diamonds don't split (and the 1NT overcall suggests that they won't) you just traded a Diamnd for a Heart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Is there a convention or methd to ask for specific Jacks? Should P have the spade-jack, 6NT would seem like a reasonable shot. Otherwise, slam would seem to be, at best, on a club hook. I would probably mis-count my tricks and settle for a boring 3NT and hope that P might be able to make another bid with extra length in diamonds. DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sjthjxxdkqtxxxcjx&s=skq98hakdajxcaqtx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] As you can see, partner had the important JT of spades and 6NT was pretty much laydown. The club finesse actually loses. I don't know a whole lot about the opponents hands as the contract was claimed rather quickly. I couldn't really complain about the methods as we had a good shot to get there. But, it brought up an important point about the methods. What would be the most important thing to know? Shortness? Suit length? etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 i'd bid 6♦ also Me, 3. I hate to miss slams as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 4D, singleton ask. If he shows a singleton spade or no singleton, I presume I can sign off in 4N? If so, that is what I do. If partner has a singleton club, I would assume no 4-card major in this system so would place him with 3361 shape. Now it really only depends on him holding the Jack of spades or the heart Q or the spade Ace onside or maybe even the singleton J of clubs would put us over the top. If partner holds a singleton club I'm bidding 6D; otherwise, I'll play 4N. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 For once I like the 1♦ opening rightsiding a ♦ contract :rolleyes: I'd bid 6♦, since opps might already bring an extra trick tnx to a poor lead, and I like to play slams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I can count 12 tricks on a finese, or even better if somethign good happens (I was expecting 4♥ rather than ♠J, but it is as good). So 6♦ would be my bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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