Trumpace Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 You hold QJx, AKJxx, _, AQxxx Partner is dealer and opens with a gambling 3NT (a long running minor). RHO passes. What do you bid? Take whatever vul you want to take into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 5♦ seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I agree, you may be lucky and find partner has an entry, but you shouldn't assume this, since he invariably won't if you need him to have one. It's S*d's Law... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 We want to declare the hand due to the ♣AQ tenace, so 5♦ must be the bid. We may miss a slam if partner is allowed to have a queen (♥Q), but even so he also needs to have a singleton spade .... and a solid suit opposite a void! All this is too much to ask for. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5♦ is too high. We could easily lose 2 clubs and a diamond, and even if the diamonds are solid, they may be able to negotiate a club ruff. However, 5♦ must be the practical bid. I have too much for signing off via 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I'll start with 4♣. Over 4♦ I'll try 4♥.... Perhaps this action should request some heart support otherwise I'd bid 4♥ directly. Have never seen the idea although I think it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Interesting idea Phil. I won't torture partner with this, besides, even if partner understands it "correctly" you will wrongside the likely 5D contract. A further problem is that partner may have 3-card heart support and still no entry for you to enjoy the diamonds. I'd bid 5D, but I think that this is more likely to go down then that we have a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 5♦ if I feel conservative.6♦ if I need points.4♦ asking for singleton if I feel scientific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I'll start with 4♣. Over 4♦ I'll try 4♥.... Perhaps this action should request some heart support otherwise I'd bid 4♥ directly. Have never seen the idea although I think it makes sense.Just remember to say thank you when partner, having mulled over your 4♥ bid, shrugs and passes and tables xx void AKQJxxxx xxx :D Yes, I know that that should not happen, but partners (bless them, Lord) do not always think like we do. 5♦ is the logical bid. So 5♦ is what I would bid (the two statements are not redundant, alas) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I like to use 4D as a shortness ask over 3N. Anyways, I will bid 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4♦, asking for a shortness. Depending on the responses, I'll choose between 5♦, 4♠ (if p responds 4♥ showing shortness ♠, I have kickback RKC with this bid) or 6♦/♥ depending on the mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I like to use 4D as a shortness ask over 3N. Anyways, I will bid 5D. Even if pd had ♠ shortness? I agree with Roland this time, a direct 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 5♦ seems logical. Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 We must play in ♦, not NT. Otherwise no way to get to partner's hand. Also, I want the lead to come to me. Third, I think we might make 5♦. I'll bid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 5♦ and will not be surprise if it goes down.playing mp if 4♦ is to play i'll bid it, especially non vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4D for shortness. My hope is to find x-xx-AKQJxxx-xxx. On this layout, I take ten top tricks, plus two more on many occasions. It still right-side's the contract, and it is sexier. I like sexy auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 If vulnerable I'll bid 5♦ (Expect partner to have 8 card suit). Not vulnerable 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4D for shortness. My hope is to find x-xx-AKQJxxx-xxx. On this layout, I take ten top tricks, plus two more on many occasions. It still right-side's the contract, and it is sexier. I like sexy auctions. Very sexy indeed. Now, you find partner with a singleton spade, fine; how do you ask if his suit is solid opposite a void? Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I was about to say that if partner has genuinely promised a solid suit (i.e. AKQJ and preferably the 10) I would ask for singleton with 4D and bid a slam opposite spade shortage. But then I stopped and thought about the play. Suppose partner has solid diamonds, a spade shortage and not the queen of hearts. xxx(x)AKQJxxxxx(x) to make 6D you need diamonds 4-2 or 3-3 to start with. The problem you have is how to draw trumps. On the lead of a singleton in either rounded suit you are in danger of conceding a ruff before you can get to dummy, or of conceding a trump promotion. If partner has a trebleton heart you will need hearts 3-2 with the queen onside.If partner has a trebleton club it is a bit better but still poor. Many people think AKQ109xx is good enough for a 3NT opening (I don't), in which case I don't bother with all that thinking but just bid 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 4♦ ask shortness and if partner responds spades 4nt which ask length. If partner has ideal hand (short spades and 8♦) and didn't forget this never used convention I will find nice 6♦ which goes down because neither finesse works:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Science is wonderful and sometimes the "value" bid is just right. 5D and wait for a "happy" lead that produces 12 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I would open 3NT with AKQ10xxx if I was playing gambling 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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