Echognome Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=stxxhj98xdajtxcxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♦) - X - (1♥) - ?(2♣) - X - (2♦) - ?[/hv] This was partner's problem. Am anticipating you will bid pass, X or 1NT on the first round. Which one and why? Either way, LHO bids 2♣, partner doubles and RHO bids 2♦. Your go. If it matters what you did on the first round, feel free to mention that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Pass on 1♥ is fine (don't have enough for a free bid) Dbl now to show maximum pass last round and ♦ Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Double I don't see a reason why would I bid anything but pass on the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Sounds like pard has some sort of strong NTish hand. I'll pass first and double now (obviously for penalties - I´ve been given 2 chances to pick a suit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Double first round. Pass second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Lol, so everyone so far is agreed that you should double precisely once :lol: Doubling 1♥ seems obvious. I'll double 2♦ too, we've got nowhere to go and I want +200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I pass over 1H, just, because I don't really want to compete in hearts.I then have an easy double of 2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 1 NT the first round, Dbl the 2nd round if I passed the round before.After 1 NT the round before Dbl now is a stretch,but I would probably do it anyway. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I agree with doubling exactly once. If I doubled 1H then partner has not shown a big hand and I don't feel comfortable doubling 2D. If I passed 1H then partner has shown a monster and I'm delighted to stamp on their 2D. The first call is close, I would double (showing exactly 4 hearts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I think that Hannie got it. Except that I would pass 1♥, and double 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 i'd double 1H every time... the 2nd part is tougher, but i lean toward pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 need to double 1H the first time DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 1NT the first round. I do not care if 1H was a psychic -- I like notrump better here. Plus, I want partner to know where my points are. On the second round, I pass -- partner knows my hand, for the most part. If he reopens with another double, I sit. He can (and will) bid 2H to check back if hearts is viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hello everyone I agree with Hannie. Two doubles for me. Since I have 'shown' 4+ hearts and partner 'doubled' a second time suggesting 4315 or 4324 with extra values, doubling 2Ds looks like a good idea. Partner has the spades and clubs 'behind' declarer and the diamonds are also 'stacked' against them. The first double was very close, however, the second double is much more solid since partner has shown 'extra' values. It might get very ugly for the other pair. No suits are breaking for the other pair and partner holds declarers second suit 'behind' him. Call your broker and tell him to buy! :rolleyes: Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I agree with Hannie. Two doubles for me. Something is wrong here, I said I would double exactly once. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Double then pass for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 An interesting issue is the meaning of partner's second double if we double 1H. If we follow standard rules for doubles, it is simply punitive of clubs, since our double of 1H started a punitive sequence.But that doesn't seem very useful. We already know that if partner has a minimum takeout double of diamonds, most of the time he will have something in clubs. I think it makes sense for partner's second double to show extra strengh. (it could be a strong balanced hand, but opponent's bidding and our diamond holding suggest this is unlikely).What do you think ? Back to the original question : i would pass 1H. For me, the hand is just a tad too weak for a double. The second bid is an easy double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 On this hand, partner chose a somewhat light 1NT bid initially. He said afterwards that he would normally pass. I had an easy double of 2♣ given that I was 4-3-1-5 in shape with an 18 count. LHO corrected to 2♦ and partner doubled. This went for 800. It was an interesting question whether I can double 2♣ (for penalties) if partner passes the first time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Back to the original question : i would pass 1H. For me, the hand is just a tad too weak for a double. The second bid is an easy double. your partner doubled for t/o, if i don't double now he'll never know we have a heart fit (if we do) and we'll always get the same type bid after a t/o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 your partner doubled for t/o, if i don't double now he'll never know we have a heart fit (if we do) Do you mean that you would double to show four hearts no matter the strengh of the hand ? Surely, there has to be some minimum requirement for strenght, in addition to the hearts. I wouldn't double with xx - Jxxx - xxxx - xxx, or xx - Kxxx - xxxx - xxx. The problem hand is, for me, just below the minimum required strenght. Add a queen somewhere and i would double. and we'll always get the same type bid after a t/o I didn't understand this part of your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I would pass 1H probably as most of my values are in partner's short suit. I think a X should show a slightly better hand. I definitely crack 2D after partner's second X and expect to beat it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Speaking of when to double, how does pard's hand change when you double initially and when you pass initially after he doubles the 2C bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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