Who to blame (8)

[beatrix45]

:P As a latecomer to this thread, I am amazed at the comments (except for Luis' and a few others). North's normal bid, IMO, is a negative double. However, masterminding and overbidding (slightly) with 3NT might well have made sense at the table.

 

South's bid over 3NT must mean that he thought North's 3NT call showed a strong NT opening bid (15-17 or 16-18 HCP). No one plays it that way, though. Otherwise, any bid other than Pass is dead wrong, imo.

[Al_U_Card]

While South was agressive, that 3NT bid must have been made by a dyed in the wool optimist. (or you play super-solid opening bids and he is allowed to bid on air because of it) That being said, one slam try was ok as long as you can end in 4NT without too much stress.....

[Winstonm]

[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sk1086hqxxxdjxcajx&s=sjhakxdkqxxxckxxx]133|200|South opened 1♦ the bidding went:[/hv]

 

South - West - North - East

1♦ - 1♠ - 3NT  - Pass

4♣ - pass - 4♥ - pass

4♠ - pass - 6♣ - all passes.

How about a simple:

 

1D-1S-X-P

2C-P-2N-P

3N-P-P-P

 

Seems to me North didn't trust South to be able to bid his or her own hand - a classic case of take-charge-itis.

 

Winston

[Guest Jlall]

I'd blame north.

 

3N is a big overbid, cuebidding 4H on Qxxx doesn't make any sense, and 6C...what is that? Does north have anything extra? Or a fit?

 

Surely if you bid 3N over 1S you'll put on the breaks and bid 4N after 4C, or 5C over 4S in the actual auction.

[joker_gib]

I like 1♦ and 1♠ (I don't know the hand oh LHO :( ). :)

 

Rest of the auction is :angry:

[luke warm]

I'd blame north.

 

3N is a big overbid, cuebidding 4H on Qxxx doesn't make any sense, and 6C...what is that? Does north have anything extra? Or a fit?

 

Surely if you bid 3N over 1S you'll put on the breaks and bid 4N after 4C, or 5C over 4S in the actual auction.

eggzactly

[Codo]

Both got what they deserved.

There is no need to bid 3 NT now. There is a lot of space to find out about a herat fit and a lot of other things.

There is no need to bid 3 NT 11-12 without any discussion, because the "normal" range is 13-15. You can bid so agressive, there are a lot good things which may happen. But you first should tell your partner.

 

You win prices in journals for finding slams no other found.

But to win tourneys, you dont need ´to reach for them.

 

So, when you look at 16 nice HCPS, opps a 13-15 NT with strong values opps. your singelton, you just pass to win.

 

After 4 Club this "partnership" reached new dimensions in misunderstanding. I do not know, what 4 HEart was (Maybe 4 Club was some Blackwood for Clubs?!)

 

Anyway nice bidding- said the opps....

[mikestar]

I'm going to go out on a limb and defend South. North should have 13 HCP or a compensating source of tricks (diamond fit) with spades well stopped. South will have a play for slam oppostie ♠KQ ♥A ♦A with nothing else in the North hand--he can afford a slam try.

 

North should have negative doubled or bid 2NT only (in fact like 1NT better than 3NT). Having overbid to game, he must sign off at 4NT,which South will no doubt pass.

 

If NS play Roth-Stonish openenrs, then 4♣ was a bit much, but North should still sign off, so the blame is more evenly split.