Adequate Solvers Problem 10

[Echognome]

[hv=d=e&v=b&n=skq943haq3daq543c&s=sathk874d986ckq82]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

Here south will open 1♣ or a weak NT. North will force to game showing his spades and diamonds. The hands are somewhat of a misfit and souths clubs honours are wasted opposite north's void. Will NS reach slam? Should they reach slam? The pairs will tell you their thoughts.

[hrothgar]

Pretty straightforward weak NT auction

 

1N - 2♥

2♠ - 3♦

3N - 4♦

4♠

 

Couple points worth noting:

 

MOSCITO uses an 11+ - 14 HCP 1NT opening range.

However, if we hold 4 Hearts, we promise 11+ - 12 HCP

With 4 Spades, we promise 13-14 HCP

 

This is a "maximum" for a 1NT opening with this shape

 

While I wouldn't have minded finding a slam, my 4♦ bid was promopted by my desire to avoid a lot of club losers in 3N

[Cascade]

We had some special agreements for this hand but managed to not apply them too well ;-)

 

1NT 2♥

2♠ 3♣

3♥ 4♦

5♦ 6♦

 

1NT was Good 11 to 14

 

2♥ standard Jacoby Transfer

 

2♠ was just not a super-accept

 

3♣ showed club shortage and should have been a platform to avoid slam

 

3♥ showed four or five hearts and fewer than three spades (scrambling for a fit). Responder could still have four hearts for this auction.

 

4♦ was natural

 

5♦ an offer to play

 

and responder raised to 6♦

 

Over 3♥ responder should normally offer 3NT without four hearts so 4♦ suggested serious slam interest or a club void.

 

Opener should have bid 3NT or 4NT at some stage. These would have been offers to play and would have warned North off slam.

[inquiry]

Yuck.... i hate my auction on this one....

 

We went into non-man land on this one when I decided to avoid the systemic auction on this one for no great reason. This is fairly easy to bid by our methods. The auction should start for us with 1♣-1♠-1NT-3♦- showing 5-5 or better, game force, followed by 3NT-4NT (natural strong invite). The next bid would have been up to Hannie. Instead, we produced this weird looking auction caused by my (sarcastic mode on) “brilliant” decision (sarcastic mode off) to go non-systemtic on my first bid.

 

1♣-1♦

1♥-2♦

2NT-3♥

4♥-4♠

5♣-5♠

6♥-pass

 

I choose to respond 1♦ for two odd reasons. The first, I thought the hand might play as well ♥ as in either of my two long suits, but if I bid normally, I could easily lose the heart suit altogether (after 1C-1S-1N-3D). Second, we use 1C-1D-1NT to show 17-19 hcp, and I wanted to see if he would rebid that (not likely with my rock crusher). Both reason are wacky.

 

Even given my awkward start, we could have landed partially on our feet in 6♠ or perhaps in 6♦. Over my artificial, GF 2♦ rebid, partner bid 2NT, so I know he has at least Ax if not Axx of spades. So while I know about the spade fit, he has no clue I even have spades. This will haunt me the rest of the auction, second, when I raise hearts, he has no clue I have only three hearts instead of the expected four. This means he will never show his three card ♦ support as we have found our fit.

 

However, when I raise hearts, I still have the idea the moysein might play well, and I expected (wrongly), Han to show three card ♦ support with it. Instead, he carried on to 4♥, I decide he has at most 2 ♦, because he failed to support them over 3♥. My picture of his hand is now Axx Kxxx xx Axxx, or Axx Kxxx xx KJxx, or Axx Kxxx xx KQxx. The reason for this is because with 4324 hands, we need 26 Zar points to open. So with balanced junk we don’t open (see hand 2 from this contest). As confusing as the auction was so far, now make it worse (I think having misbid to this point, the obvious bid is 6♠ which is clearly to play. However, I really muddy the water with a forcing 4♠ “cue=bid” to see if he will cue-bid diamond king that I doubt he holds anyway. The answer is no, he shows his club stuff.

 

Now I try to decide if I want to slam in notrump or spades of hearts. I think we have good spade fit (5-3 seems certain on this auction due to the lack of ♦ support ever), but the moysein heart fit might provide an extra trick (5S, 3H, 1D, 1C, 1 club ruff, and a potential 12th trick from 3-3 heart split or diamond hook). Over 5♣ I have one last chance to recover from my confusing start with a leap to 6♠. But I thought if I rebid 5♠, somehow, magically Han would figure out that I am offering ♠ as a final contact, but anyway, he will not (in my minds eye) bid 6♥ without good hearts (KJxx). So when Hannie bid 6♥, I choose to play the 4-3 fit rather than what I thought was a 5-3 ♠ fit. However, there was another reason why I passed 6♥, as at this point, I wondered if he would have passed if I had chosen 6♠.

 

This was horrible and entirely my fault. Clearly with an expected 8 card heart fit, Han had no reason to raise diamonds anywhere in here.

[MickyB]

Yeah I'm not too fond of mine either.

 

1♣:1♥

1♠:2♦

2♥:3♦

3♥:6♦

 

1♣ short, 1♥ 4+ spades

1♠ 11-13 bal, 2♦ artificial GF

2♥ nat, 3♦ presumably nat

3♥ no idea, 6♦ punt!

 

I should have rebid 3♦, then everything is much simpler.

[awm]

I liked Elianna and my auction:

 

1♣ - 1♠

1NT - 2♦

2♥ - 3♦

3NT - Pass

 

Natural bidding until 2♦, which is game-forcing checkback. The 3♦ call is a slam try in diamonds (this must guarantee 5♠, since we would bid 1♦ in response to 1♣ with longer diamonds than spades). Elianna's 3NT denies all interest in slam, and we played there.

 

In the play, the ♣8 is perhaps a key card, guaranteeing a second positional club stopper and making 3NT virtually cold. A 4♠, 5♦, or 4♥ contract also seems okay to me on these cards; I would want to avoid being in six of anything though.

[Fluffy]

Nice one, I believe my natural methods would land me into 6♦, mayeb some inspiration by south lands in 4NT, but I doubt it.

[han]

Ben, although this one is probably not worth discussing very much, my analysis is diffferent from yours.

 

After responding 1D you can still land on your feet by rebidding 2S instead of 2D.

 

Over 2S (natural GF, at least 4-5 in the pointed suits) I could bid 3D, but with so many slow points in the rounded suits I would likely bid 2NT (also clarifies my shape). Then you can bid 3H and you have at least shown 4-3-5-1 shape, off by only 1 card and the best you can do given your initial response. I have an easy 3NT bid over that auction.

 

So while I agree that your 1D was not systemic and probably not a good idea, it was really your following 4 bids that got us into trouble.

[Guest Jlall]

We bid 1C-1S-1N-3D(5-5 pointed suits slam interest)-3N-pass. I felt that I had bid my hand and respected the 3N sign off.

[mike777]

1C 1S

1NT 2D

2H 3NT

Pass

 

AT

K874

986

KQ82

 

KQ943

AQ3

AQ543

void

 

 

Lots of decisions on this hand for me. I decided to be very conservative and just rebid 3nt.

With a void in clubs, poor D spots, and with you having only 2 spades and often 11-13 balanced, I went conservative.

a*) Would you rebid 3d and not 2d as a slam try here?

b*) Would you rebid 3d over the 2d xyz checkback bid?

 

Mike

 

Kimmel sez: You did have the fun hand to bid....First off, 3NT is interesting to play if I get a club lead into my KQ8x.....to play it safe, i need to cross to the Heart ace, and then lead a spade to the 10....Howabout that??!!

 

When its a quiz like this Mike, you can say to your self, "Self, at the table I'd bid 3NT...But since this is bidding practice, let's try 3D and see what happens (what we can learn).....cuz once you say 3NT -- the jig is up.......

 

There are a couple considerations about whether to say 3 diaomonds (the second time)....i think you need a better hand or better suits to bid it the first time.......More than just reaching a diamond slam....it just might keep you ought of 3NT when pard is weak in clubs....Give pard..

 

AT

K874

KJ 6

Jxxx

[Robert]

Hello everyone

 

Home made Big Club methods.

 

1D*-1S-1NT-2D*-2H*-3D-3NT-4D-4S-pass

 

1D*=11-16(-)

1S=4+ spades

1NT=12-14

2D*=artifical GF

2H*=waits, denys 3 spades, if a max. NT

3D=suit

3NT=to play

4D=5 Ds

4S=tolerance

pass

 

The hands do not 'fit' well, responder showed a 'good' hand and opener kept showing 'no interest.'

 

Regards,

Robert

[tysen2k]

Our homegrown precision:

 

1♦ - 1♠

1NT - 2♣

2♦ - 3♦

3NT - P

 

1♦ = artificial promising 4cM

1NT = 11-15 balanced w/ 4♥

2♣ = art checkback

2♦ = min w/ 2♠