Blofeld Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=b&w=skxhdakj7xcjt8xxx&e=saqjt9haq9xxxdtxc]266|100|Scoring: IMPOpponents are silent.[/hv]Playing your favourite system and gadgets, what's your normal auction on these hands? I'd prefer if you gave the standard auction even if that lands you in a suboptimal contract rather than picking some odd bids that simply happen to work with these hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 2nt-3♦p or 2nt-3♠4♠-p 2nt is 5-5 minors and we play it solid (8-13). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=b&w=skxhdakj7xcjt8xxx&e=saqjt9haq9xxxdtxc]266|100|Scoring: IMPOpponents are silent.[/hv]Playing your favourite system and gadgets, what's your normal auction on these hands? I'd prefer if you gave the standard auction even if that lands you in a suboptimal contract rather than picking some odd bids that simply happen to work with these hands. Old fashion natural, no conventions, no gadgets! 1c=1h2c=2s3d=3s4s=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Playing fairly standard methods: 1♦ - 1♥2♣ - 2♠ (4th suit force)3♣ - 3♠ (natural)4♠ - Pass I would open 1♦ because the diamonds are much stronger, and I want to get both suits in. While I essentially never open 1♦ with 4-5 in the minors, I will do so fairly often with 5-6. Playing weirder stuff: 1♦ - 1♥2♣ - 2♠ (GF relay)3NT (2-0-5-6) - 4♥ (transfer to spades)4♠ - Pass In either case 3NT is a possible spot, but I think 4♠ is a little more likely on these hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Hello Blofeld A 'normal auction' for these two opposing 5 above 6 hands? I get dealt these hands every day. :( 1D-1H-2C-2S-3C-3S-4S(partner expected me to bid over 3Ss, I really wanted to pass) I am guessing that partner has 5S and 6Hs, he could have rebid his hearts over my 3C bid or supported either minor. That hopefully leaves him with long spades. I hope that he does not bid slam without a real "Monster" hand in another auction. I would rather get a poor result 'not' passing a 'forcing' bid than destroy partnership confidence by taking a view. Resubmit this two hands with AQxxx of spades and let me see 'if' the hands are bid the same way. My auction stays the same. After a trump lead, there might be a shortage of tricks. If there is a 4-2 trump break...? That AQxxx suit might fall apart. Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Playing something similar to SAYC 1C - 1H2C - 2S2NT (1) - 3S (2)3NT (3) - ???(4) (1) Ugly, but 3C is not really an option, and 3D is 4th suit(2) 6-5(3) 4S is probably ok as well(4) Pass, or 4H => Partner will correct to 4S Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 "Resubmit this two hands with AQxxx of spades and let me see 'if' the hands are bid the same way. My auction stays the same. After a trump lead, there might be a shortage of tricks. If there is a 4-2 trump break...? That AQxxx suit might fall apart." 1) With that suit I would just rebid 2H weak now over a 2club rebid. 1c=1h=2c=2h=p.2) If 1d=1h=2c= then 2nt now and opener can just pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 1♦ (i) 1♥ (ii)2♣ 2♠ (iii)3♣ 3♠ (iv)3NT (v) (i) I don't like distorting suit lengths but this looks like 5-5(ii) Responder has no need to distort suit lengths!(iii) initially FSF, but...(iv) ... could be natural(v) I hope it makes! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 1♦ 1♥2♣ 3♠3NT With such good diamonds and poor clubs I would vary from my usual standard of always bidding the five-card suit first We play a jump in the fourth suit is natural showing a genuine 2-suiter and GF so 3♠ shows a 5-6 distribution I think opener should try 3NT but raising to 4♠ is possible. Depends how likely it is for the opponents to force declarer off in clubs and how good partner's hearts are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 1♦ - 1♥2NT - 4♠ Explanation: utility opening 10-15HCP, minor three suiter with <5♠ or minor 2 suiter or 4♠ with longer minor Relay 2NT= at least 5+5+ minors with short ♥ Conclusion. Interestingly if the other hand opens, I would have a very different auction: this hand type is too good to open with a limited bid but begs the question if you open with a strong bid. Accordingly we would open it 2♥ to show either Acol in ♥ or weak two in ♠ or weak in both minors. Over a strong enquiry the hand which has the Acol two type and is 65 specifically shows it in the Majors - thereby taking a lot of pressure off the limited Major openings when you have well-textured 65s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 the start is prety standard: 1♦-1♠2♣-3♥ Now West can either bid 3♠,3NT or 4♠. I like 4♠ the most (3♠ being stronger). But not sure if I would do it given the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 If nroth was deealer: -.-.-.1♠2♦-2♥3♣-3♥4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Just because it is neat for this hand, one of my favorite systems/conventions (from the past) would go like this: 2NT (minors, weak)3H (spades; 3S would be hearts)4H (void, Qx or better in spades)4S In the present world: 1D (promises a stiff or void somewhere, 4+ diamonds)1H (natural)2C (10 to bad 13, minors)2S (forcing)3C (more minor chape)3S (6-5)4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I would treat this as 5-5 or 6-6 majors and respond 1♠ (I would open 1♠ as well if East as openers): 1♦-1♠2♣-2♥3♣-3♥3/4♠-(4♠) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 This hand would be quite difficult in my methods. We play 2NT as both minors either weak or GF, so that is out. Instead, we'd have to start with a nebulous 1♣. 1♣ - 2♥(1)2♠(2) - 2NT(3)3NT - ? (1) Game Forcing at least 5♥ and 5 of another.(2) Relay asking for second suit(3) At least 5/5 in the majors. Nuts. Here East has to decide whether to trust partner's 3NT or insist with 4♥. I would tend to just pass 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchTsch Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Well, in the system I play bidding would go like this: 1♦(1) - 3♥(2)3NT - ? (1) 14+ natural(2) (55)+ ♥♠ GF Now responder should probably pass with obviously misfit hands. Alternative is to bid 4♥, opener to bid 4♠ as final contract. Same thing would be if opener opened 1♣ instead of 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 MOSCITO: 1♠ - 1NT (4+♦ unbalanced ; relay, can be weak)2♣ - 2♥ (54+m, longer suit unknown ; relay, GF)2NT - 3♣ (55+m ; relay)4♣ - 4♦ (2-0-5-6 ; end signal)4♥ - 4♠/NT (obligated ; signoff) We were looking for a Major fit, 4♣ gets us past 3NT because of the extreme shape. Perhaps a relay break would turn out better here, but the hands might have slam too easily... The choice is between 4♠ and 4NT imo. I'd probably bid both 4NT and 4♠ depending on the mood when I get such hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Old fashion natural, no conventions, no gadgets! 1c=1h2c=2s3d=3s4s=p ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 My auction (however it is not very normal) 1D - 1H3C*-3NTPAss 3C*= at least five five either suit can be longer, and weak 3NT = all this stuff and this is as high as I can go.. dang it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 1♦ - 1♥2♣ - 3♠4♠ - P 1♦: I don't usually do this, but the suit disparity persuades me to3♠: 5-6 or better, game forcing (We play 4th suit followed by re-4th suit as natural only if the other hand bids NT, so we specifically have a bid to show FG with lots of majors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Hello FrancesHinden How do you bid 1D-1H-2C holding 4+ clubs and short spades if 1D-1H-2C-3S is GF majors? Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 If game forcing, go via 4th suit first, then raise clubs. Or, rarely, raise 2c to 4c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP ♠ Kx ♥ [space] ♦ AKJ7x ♣ JT8xxx ♠ AQJT9 ♥ AQ9xxx ♦ Tx ♣ [space] Opponents are silent. not the best hand for relay precision (gerben can correct this if wrong) 1d : 1nt (unbalanced 2 or 3 suited, 11-15 : gf relay)2d : 2h (minors : relay)2nt : 3c (2 suited, 5/5 or better : relay)4c : 4s (2056 : here we are) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 :( Auction looks automatic to me. 1♣ - Pass - 1♥ - Pass2♦ - Pass - 2♠ - Pass3♦ - Pass - 3♠ - Pass3NT - Pass - Pass - Pass Play all misfits in no trump. Is there a better spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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