bridge@eastontario.com Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Please visit a recently edited page that might help you reinforce the idea of COUNTING in bridge. http://eastontario.com/conventions/count2.htm It's like a game that will help you develop skills in determining deal distributions. It's FREE! Your feedback welcome. Currently it is ONLY INTERNET EXPLORER compatible.Anyone interested in making it compatible with such as Firefox and Netscape please feel free. bridge@eastontario.com :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Please update your announcement if you make it compatible with Firefox :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggle Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestguru Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Thanks for the site. It is great. I am starting to get the ability to think in suit patterns. What doesn't work in firefox? The spacing is a little wierd but I get the correct result when I click on the buttons. It has been a while since I touched html, but maybe I'll take a look. Maybe I missed it because I only took a quick glance, but is the timer functionality supposed to be enabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge@eastontario.com Posted November 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Thanks for the site. It is great. I am starting to get the ability to think in suit patterns. What doesn't work in firefox? The spacing is a little wierd but I get the correct result when I click on the buttons. It has been a while since I touched html, but maybe I'll take a look. Maybe I missed it because I only took a quick glance, but is the timer functionality supposed to be enabled?"ochinko" suggested earlier that it wasn't Firefox compliant. I haven't tested it in Firefox.I think there's some Netscape problem too. It's worked in all the version combinations of IE that I've tried. There's no timer for this page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Thanks for the site. It is great. I am starting to get the ability to think in suit patterns. What doesn't work in firefox? The spacing is a little wierd but I get the correct result when I click on the buttons. It has been a while since I touched html, but maybe I'll take a look. Maybe I missed it because I only took a quick glance, but is the timer functionality supposed to be enabled?"ochinko" suggested earlier that it wasn't Firefox compliant. I haven't tested it in Firefox.I think there's some Netscape problem too. It's worked in all the version combinations of IE that I've tried. There's no timer for this page. It works fine in firefox if you just remove the silly huge announcement that "This works only in Internet Explorer!" which messes up the spacing. One can decrease font twice (whcih makes it hard to read on my screen) and then spacing is fixed. Of course, when you click to the next problem, you get the same it only works with IE page (then click again) and the next problems shows. So I would suggest just removing the javascript testing for navigator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ben is quite right. I was too lazy and/or gullible. It works not only in Firefox, but Konqueror and Opera too. It doesn't even show the message in Opera. I guess Opera presents itself as IE. It's safe to get rid of the error message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Best are the error messages when you make a mistake. "maybe you have a kid in kindergarten that can help you?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ben is quite right. I was too lazy and/or gullible. It works not only in Firefox, but Konqueror and Opera too. It doesn't even show the message in Opera. I guess Opera presents itself as IE. It's safe to get rid of the error message. No.. the page has javascript testing specifically for navigator. If the answer to that test is true, then you get the error message. So what Opera presents itself as is not navigator..... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ben is quite right. I was too lazy and/or gullible. It works not only in Firefox, but Konqueror and Opera too. It doesn't even show the message in Opera. I guess Opera presents itself as IE. It's safe to get rid of the error message. No.. the page has javascript testing specifically for navigator. If the answer to that test is true, then you get the error message. So what Opera presents itself as is not navigator..... :-)Oh, come on... Humiliating me once was not enough? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ben is quite right. I was too lazy and/or gullible. It works not only in Firefox, but Konqueror and Opera too. It doesn't even show the message in Opera. I guess Opera presents itself as IE. It's safe to get rid of the error message. No.. the page has javascript testing specifically for navigator. If the answer to that test is true, then you get the error message. So what Opera presents itself as is not navigator..... :-) I'm no expert on HTML and browsersI do have some interest in industrial concentrations and monopolies... As I recall, there are standard strings that different browsers use to identify themselves to webserver... There is a widely held belief that many web sites and servers discriminate against users who aren't running Internet Explorer. By default, Opera Browsers lie about their identity and claim to be IE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie5607 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I think this is great - counting is my biggest bugaboo for sure, and I am always looking for help. I also would love to see a timer on that page so I can play against myself to work out the distrubutions as quickly as possible. Another thing that would be great is a way to make it about high card points as well - since you see aces, kings and queens counting the missing points and assigning them to hands would be tremendously useful too. Thanks for a wonderful link. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Try to count wrong, its hilarious!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 It's really very nice ! Could be improved by adding a timer and a counter keeping track of the number of hands solved and or the wrong clicks (mistakes in counting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 The interesting question to everyone, do you think this can help counting in bridge ? do you think the process of counting here and on diffence is the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 The interesting question to everyone, do you think this can help counting in bridge ? do you think the process of counting here and on diffence is the same ? I think it does help. When the basic is automatic, then the defender gets the habt of counting shape without even thinking, and he can do the thinking about more complicated stuff (counting tricks, inferences, honor locations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I think it helps counting if what you practise on is the hand shape insetad of manually counting the number of cards. Like 433 ---last number must be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge@eastontario.com Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Please update your announcement if you make it compatible with Firefox B) I believe the current Firefox rendering is sufficient for 95% plus of visitors ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge@eastontario.com Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 The interesting question to everyone, do you think this can help counting in bridge ? do you think the process of counting here and on diffence is the same ? I think it does help. When the basic is automatic, then the defender gets the habt of counting shape without even thinking, and he can do the thinking about more complicated stuff (counting tricks, inferences, honor locations). I think it helps advanced and lesser developed players.When I use it, it just sends me back too far and I forget the other stuff.Guess I'm claiming to be better than advanced...somehow... I hate when Mom starts talking about me at two years old in front of company.The drooling...the drooling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Try to count wrong, its hilarious!!!!! you had to *try*? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I'm no expert on HTML and browsersI do have some interest in industrial concentrations and monopolies... As I recall, there are standard strings that different browsers use to identify themselves to webserver... There is a widely held belief that many web sites and servers discriminate against users who aren't running Internet Explorer. By default, Opera Browsers lie about their identity and claim to be IE.Opera identifies itself as (using the default setting "Identify as MSIE 6.0"): User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.50 So there is no reason to assume that it "lies" about it's identity at all. In fact, the header contains the explicit information that it is in fact Opera you're dealing with. I think if websites discriminate against browsers, it's mainly to achieve correct rendering. Conspiracy theories are in the wrong place here in my not so humble opinion. I've just finished a small web project using some recent standards (CSS 2.0) and I've found that the browser who messes up the most is Internet Explorer. So, as a developer, you could start coding against the standards but afterwards you are forced to plug numerous holes due to IE not obeying these standards. Needless to say this is annoying as hell (especially due to the fact that you need to run IE to test your designs, which is not completely straightforward when you are not running Windows as your operating system...). All in all, Opera is the most stable browser when modern web standards are concerned, and also outstanding on many other fronts (yes, I've been a fanboy for a long time :-). Unfortunately MSIE still covers most of the browser market, and MS is not making a great effort to make it more standards compatible. There is a well-known standards test, called "Acid2". Opera is the only popular browser at the moment that passes this test completely. Microsoft, in turn, have even made it explicit that they are not trying to make Internet Explorer 7 (the upcoming version) pass this test (needless to say that they easily have the resources to do so). In my eyes that speaks volumes about their motives... Having Internet Explorer pass Acid2 would make a huge difference for web developers. Huge. --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 The counting game is nice, and the comments popping up when you are wrong are priceless. Unfortunately the page also proves my iron rule that there simply are no good-looking web pages concerned with the game of Bridge (maybe the ACBL website qualifies as the single exception to the rule). I'm still wondering why this is so -- I haven't hit that phenomenon as hard in any other area. --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Unfortunately the page also proves my iron rule that there simply are no good-looking web pages concerned with the game of Bridge I like the layout and content of www.vbl.beIt's in Dutch and only has the info that you expect from the Flemish Bridge federation, but if you want to see a nice web page about bridge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_BC84 Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Unfortunately the page also proves my iron rule that there simply are no good-looking web pages concerned with the game of Bridge I like the layout and content of www.vbl.beIt's in Dutch and only has the info that you expect from the Flemish Bridge federation, but if you want to see a nice web page about bridge...Uh... nothing to write home about. At all. The download links open an empty window (ugly and inconvenient). Website uses a frame (unnecessary and inconvenient). It's not a complete disgrace, though. (And no, I don't think my standards are too high ;-). --Sigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 The counting game is nice, and the comments popping up when you are wrong are priceless. HEHEHE, thanks for point this out.. I went back and missed a few to see what you were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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