barmar Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Why do you want to be a member of a club run by someone who hassles you in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 which club????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Beaner, You will ALWAYS have a home in Future Stars. Without a doubt. This unfortunately is another regrettable chapter. We'll overcome, with grace. If this game is to survive, we need to put people first and not personal pursuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Kathryn, I understand that you want to take a short vacation after this unpleasant experience. But please don't stay away for very long. There is counting to be done, tournaments to be played and organized, and many friends waiting for you to come back. Best wishes,Han Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 It is generally wise to stay out of quarrels one doesn't understand (and often stay out of quarrels one does understand) but my curiosity is nagging at me. Please take my questions as real rather than clever, I really don't grasp what is happening. A glance at the tourney schedule shows that there is a lot going on, and that any tourney is fairly likely to overlap with some other tourney. Is there some sort of assumption that one should not schedule a new tourney at a time that would conflict with an established one? Does it matter if one is pay and the other free? If someone complains about the schedule can they just be told to buzz off, that the tourney has to run sometime and it will probably conflict with some other one? Do I totally misunderstand? At any rate, I would not want to see JB or anyone leave mad. I really do not get what happened, so I will not take any sides, but I hope, as the Melina Mercuri character would say in "Never on Sunday", we can all go to the seashore. Stick around, JB. Ken PS If you never heard of the 60's movie Never on Sunday, I highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted November 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Yes you are correct in your assumptions.TD’s are free to schedule a tournament anytime.Private Clubs are free to boot anyone they please. I’m not mad, just very sad and disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 At any rate, I would not want to see JB or anyone leave mad. I really do not get what happened, so I will not take any sides, JiB is right. Tourneys can be run when they want. In a nutshell, JB is (was?) a member of club xxxx, she ran a tourney that conficted with club one own event. Club one manager asked her not too run it (there is no BBO rule that stops JB from running events when she like). Then club xxxx removed her membership (there are no rules that force any club to accept, reject or keep a member). So everyone was in the "right". JB can and should be allowed to run events when she wants. The club manager can pick and choose who is in and out of his/her club. So both sides acted as they "could" (yellows can not interfere here), the end result is bad for JB, bad for club xxxx and generally bad of the BBO community. This is one of the sadest incidences yet on the BBO in my opinion. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well said Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 This is one of the sadest incidences yet on the BBO in my opinion. On the other hand, like any "free-market democracy" one of the lesser pains for the greater gain. Much as I abhor the implications and support Jb, time for skin-thickening agents to be applied liberally perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Bottom line is: You can't regulate pettiness - but you don't have to be a party to it, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglover Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Clubs provide one of the few avenues for "real" power on BBO, even if that power is limited to within the club itself. Power also begets the power to abuse such power. Therefore, shouldn't BBO stringently ensure that club managers (the very few granted such power) not abuse the privilege? One man's humble opinion. And, yes, to anticipate Uday's inevitable response, that would include rules for club managers to stringently follow. With one absolute punishement-- that club manager's powers be revoked upon any single infraction. You'd lose half or more of the club managers immediately. And solve a bunch of headaches. Because currently you have anarchy due to lack of rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 There is very little difference in power between club managers and the 1,000+ TDs Want us to tightly regulate those too? I dont see how we could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglover Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 You are right... and the short answer is 'yes" but it is impractical. There are FAR FEWER club managers than TDs.. a mere handful. So the 2 problems-- altho they appear similar in stature-- have absolutely nothing in common. (But, if it were my website I'd quickly revoke TD privvies of any TD who has shown a pattern of abuse of power). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 If it were my website, I'd do the same, after looking at all the evidence and listening to all the witnesses and weighing the pros and cons of action vs. inaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 On the other hand, like any "free-market democracy" one of the lesser pains for the greater gain. Much as I abhor the implications and support Jb, time for skin-thickening agents to be applied liberally perhaps? If no one is going to name names, we don't have much of a "free market" here. How can people vote with their feet if they don't know who to vote against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 excellent point... i wish jilly would continue to run her tourney at the same time as this club, i'd like to see all the bbf folks play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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