dosxtres Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 [hv=s=sk7haq974da74ck76]133|100|[/hv][hv=s=sk7haq974da74ck76]133|100|[/hv] You open this two hands by 1♥, opp pass and you hear 1♠ or 1N,what do u rebid? (SAYC/2/1 or SEF bids) Ty all in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 SEF: If I recall it correctly, 2NT in the seq. 1H - 1S2NT - ... shows 15-17, I dont buy it, but that's the system over 1NT: 2 NT SAYC, 2/1: over1S, assuming it is natural, 2C1NT, assuming it is natural: 2NT assumnd it is forcing (2/1): 2C With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 1) This is why you open 1N with this hand. 2) 2N (18-19, which is about the hand's value). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 1) This is why you open 1N with this hand. If you do the French Bridge Federation will ban you for a year. This is still one of the minor crimes. I think for playing F****ery you get 10 years. Otherwise, I agree with opening 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 1) This is why you open 1N with this hand. 2) 2N (18-19, which is about the hand's value).Exactly and well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 OK since no answered the real question except Marlowe I will try. 1) 2clubs over 1s ( 2clubs may only be 3 card suit, in fact may only be a 2 card suit and has a very wide range, 11-17/18 hcp). Over 1nt rebid 2nt.2) 2nt (upgrade your hand to 18-19) As for why every one is opening 1nt with this hand type, 14-16 hcp and 5 hearts and only 2 spades, who knows? Perhaps they win more often with opening this hand 1NT rather then 1H or it makes the bidding easier for some reason but it would be helpful to have more logical and in depth discussion that just the answer.1) Is the 3 card major suit disparity enough of a reason to open 1H? If not why not?2) Any change in this hand cause you to open 1H rather than 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 The French have other strange ideas: "Don't open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors" is another. Not sure what opener's rebid is after 1♦ - 2♣ (not game forcing in French Standard) with ♠ KJ105♥ AQ62♦ K85♣ K3 A third is that it's a major crime to support with only 3 cards in responder's major. Examples: ♠ A105♥ 4♦ KQ87♣ K5432 1♣ - 1♠2♣ ♠KJ5♥32♦AQ832♣K104 1♦ - 1♠1NT or maybe 2♦, but never 2♠. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 hello everyone Has the ACBL opened a branch office in France? :) I often support partner on 3145 shapes playing standard methods. Oh well, my French tour is now deleted, so I can just skip playing bridge there. If they bar you for a year for 'that infraction', just looking at my CC would be cause for them to lead me off to the guillotine. :P Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 If they bar you for a year for 'that infraction', just looking at my CC would be cause for them to lead me off to the guillotine. :P Regards, Robert They would kill you for less than that it seems. Just "look" at Jeanne d'Arc. As far as I know she never supported with only 3 cards, and yet she disappeared in flames. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Aue contraire mon a me. Many would say she played with less than a full deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxtres Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Ty all for your answeres. I think, i would probabily open 1NT with this hand ♠K7 ♥A7654 ♦AQ8 ♣KJ5 playing normal 1NT (no five major) But i'm not sure to open 1NT with the 2 honor major 5 playing normal 1NT, and i think there is no good rebid for giving points and distribution. Maybe would be better playing Puppet 1NT? ty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Ty all for your answeres. I think, i would probabily open 1NT with this hand ♠K7 ♥A7654 ♦AQ8 ♣KJ5 playing normal 1NT (no five major) But i'm not sure to open 1NT with the 2 honor major 5 playing normal 1NT, and i think there is no good rebid for giving points and distribution. Maybe would be better playing Puppet 1NT? ty. Hi, playing Puppet Stayman will solve this problem,but playing puppet stayman, you wont be able to use Stayman as responder on a weak hand with 4-4 in the mayor, because opener will answer2 NT with no mayor.No big lost in my opinion, but other think differently, ... at least keep it in mind. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 About Puppet Stayman, I think it's not worth it after 1NT. Secondly, there is a big problem only with 5♥, not so much with 5♠ (1♠ - 1NT - 2NT is about 16 - 17). If you really want to find out about your 5♥ when opening 1NT then respond 2NT to Stayman showing 5♥. Some people don't like this, but I still do :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 The French have other strange ideas: "Don't open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors" is another. Not sure what opener's rebid is after 1♦ - 2♣ (not game forcing in French Standard) with ♠ KJ105♥ AQ62♦ K85♣ K3 Never heard of this Roland, sorry ! A lot of French play the 2NT response to Stayman as both majors so they open 1NT with both majors :rolleyes: Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 The French have other strange ideas: "Don't open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors" is another. Not sure what opener's rebid is after 1♦ - 2♣ (not game forcing in French Standard) with ♠ KJ105♥ AQ62♦ K85♣ K3 Never heard of this Roland, sorry ! A lot of French play the 2NT response to Stayman as both majors so they open 1NT with both majors :rolleyes: Alain Well, during a recent vugraph broadcast a commentator and several spectators claimed that Alain Levy among other French stars recommend that you don't open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors. Then the commentators had a lengthy discussion about the rebid problems if you don't open 1NT. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Two good solutions:a. open 1NTb. play gazilli Two bad soluations:a. bid 2nt over 1ntb. bid a 3 card minor suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 that Alain Levy among other French stars recommend that you don't open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors. I'm really doubtful of that :unsure: and I can assure you that this is a 1NT opening in French Standard ! Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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