Free Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 2 Questions:[hv=d=s&v=n&s=saxhjtdkjt987xcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]You hold this hand, and RHO opens 3♠ in 1st seat. Do you bid some ♦s or do you pass, hoping the bidding won't stop? Question nr. 2 (hidden, respond to 1st question, then read this if you passed): if you pass, the tray returns from the other side of the screen after almost a minute, with the bidding 3♠-pass-4♠-pass. RHO passes. Do you bid now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 pass then pass. I have a 3D opener, I am not even tempted to overcall at the 4 level, or balance at the 5 level with 7222. FWIW you are free to bid whatever you like after 3S p 4S p p even after a long tank. It could easily be LHO who tanked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 pass then pass. I have a 3D opener, I am not even tempted to overcall at the 4 level, or balance at the 5 level with 7222. FWIW you are free to bid whatever you like after 3S p 4S p p even after a long tank. It could easily be LHO who tanked.Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 I'd also pass both times. I think passing the first time is really necessary because partner will tend to hang me if I bid (i.e. if 4♦ makes partner will bid five, if 5♦ makes partner will bid six... because partner is expecting more of a hand). The second pass I think is pretty close, and I would balance with 5♦ if we were favorable, or if I had 3-1 shape in the round suits instead of 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 It's an easy pass, I lack 2 aces for an overcall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 FWIW you are free to bid whatever you like after 3S p 4S p p even after a long tank. It could easily be LHO who tanked. This is debatable. I think it is a lot more likely that partner tanked; whether to raise 3♠ to 4 is an easier problem than deciding whether to get in over 4♠. This would make a 5♦ call more likely to succeed. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 The bidding went on:3♠ - pass - 4♠ - passpass - 5♦ - pass* - pass5♠ - pass - pass - 6♦all pass (*) LHO (other side of the screen) made some comment about me using UI for the entire room, and then passed. Partner had:JT9xxAQxxAKQT LHO lead ♠ and I made 7. Opponents protested my actions, filled in a cheet (it was competition, no TD available), and now we're awaiting the TD's decision. What should it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 First my opinion about the bids:I pass and then pass. About the UI case:I think you are going to lose the board, I would rule against you, if you didn't bid in your first turn I doubt you would bid after a quick 4♠ and pass by your pd so you are indeed bidding based on UI, pass is a logical alternative with your hand.Scored changed to 4♠ by your opponents. BTW: Your pd's pass over 4♠ is quite terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 It does depend slightly on LHO's hand, since the spade lead could be judged a "failure to play bridge" if he has something like ♥AK. After all, 5♠ was not going to make and 6♦ could have been set. If a heart lead doesn't look sufficiently "obvious" I would agree with Luis and rule against you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 If pard can't find a 4NT bid on that hand then you ARE taking advantage of his UI...is there a good reason why the preemptor is bidding 5S? (looking for an adjustment perhaps?) It is certainly clear that 5D was a nonsensical bid with the appropriate consequences attending :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Pass both times. And please ask your partner to double the next time he holds such a hand, ... unless you happen to play against me. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Havingpassed first 5♦ is an option, but from theresponses you can see it is not obvious enough to do after the tempo break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Pass and pass This is a 3♦ preempt and the shape (7222) is not very encouraging Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 The problem is, when I immediatly bid 4♦, it means 5+♥ and 5+♦, and bidding 5♦ shows more strength. So pass is quite obligated in the first round.But me and my partner agree that he should've doubled to avoid any problems :rolleyes: Tnx all for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Pass throughout, I don't think it's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 pass then pass. I have a 3D opener, I am not even tempted to overcall at the 4 level, or balance at the 5 level with 7222. FWIW you are free to bid whatever you like after 3S p 4S p p even after a long tank. It could easily be LHO who tanked. What he said... I agree with others who said that the main problem was your partner's decision to pass his hand. I wouldn't call the bid criminal... Passing JQ9xxAQxxAKT8 would be criminal. But I don't like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.