Modified Fantunes system online

[luis]

Yes we use Gazzilli for 5332 hands we just rebid 2M but if we have a nice 3 card minor we rebid 2m for example with KQx in a minor we bid as if it were a 5-4 hand.

 

Luis

[Chamaco]

Gerben,

I just browsed through your FD version.

 

I like the idea of opening 18-19 (or 19-20) 2NT (because it avoids the problem of continuous range of the balanced hands included in 1♣), but I think 18-20 is too wide a range for opening 2NT, because responder, if he has, say, 4-5 hcp, would like to be in game vs a balanced 20, but not vs a balanced 18.

 

Just yesterday, in a team event, some opps missed game because of this.

On the other hand, had they bid 3NT when opener had 18 hcp, they would have had no play at all.

 

There is simply no room for responder to invite, hence the classic statement that, the higher the opening bid, the narrower the hcp range should be.

[Gerben42]

Let me give the background of the posted files. Having played the system for a while in the league and some tournaments we were playing everything written in the system description except the 1♣ opening, which is new. We were trying to play that the same as F-N do but had some problems figuring it out, and then it turned into a big mess.

 

I am unfortunately not playing with that partner anymore (we were incompatible from a psychological point of view) but that gave me the liberty to redesign that part of the system :angry:

 

I guess next time I'll give it a try with the 18 - 19 2NT opener, sounds nice. Since we're overcalling 2NT on 17 -counts all the time it'll be allright. And as a bonus opps may look silly when they have a 22-point game on :)

 

I will keep the 15 - 17 hands with 5M332 in 1♣, in my experience that wasn't much of a problem. Also it is nice to know that partner has really 5♥ 4♣, or 6♥ when making those Gazilli rebids...

 

Thanks for all the comments, I guess I've sorta filled all the holes now (for links see earlier post)

[Chamaco]

I will keep the 15 - 17 hands with 5M332 in 1♣, in my experience that wasn't much of a problem. Also it is nice to know that partner has really 5♥ 4♣, or 6♥ when making those Gazilli rebids...

Yes, I like that :-)

 

When I do play Gazzilli, I use the 2NT rebid as 6M+4bagger, and the 2M rebid as minimum 5M4C hand.

[glen]

For those who have played the Fantunes methods (or close relatives) extensively, which opening bids deliver more net + IMPs? For example is the 2♠ opening more likely to produce IMPs over time than the other two level bids.

 

Would the system be hindered much by moving the 2♦ opening hand types into the 1♦ opening, freeing up 2♦ for something else?

 

One opinion I have of the Fantunes methods is that although they are sub-optimal (i.e. in my view) they don't task the players compared to many other sophisticated systems, so the players remain fresh for play and defence challenges. Any comments on this?

[keylime]

I rather like the disciplined nature of the one bids.