000002 Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 A few days ago, i met this(as below)with my bridge student: 1♦=1♥=dbl=pass2♣=2♥=pas=pass2nt what is it? thanks 000002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 6D, 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 i would agree with Justin partner definitely wants you to pick one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 hello everyone A 3C rebid would show 5-5 minors. The 2NT bid 'shows' 6D and 4C and still lets partner choose which minor to play. If the other pair bids (1S)-2m-(2S)-p-p-? when you overcall in a minor, you can bid 2NT to suggest four hearts plus 5+ of your minor. If you only held the minors, you would bid 3Cs and let partner 'pick' a suit. Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 hello everyone A 3C rebid would show 5-5 minors. The 2NT bid 'shows' 6D and 4C and still lets partner choose which minor to play. If the other pair bids (1S)-2m-(2S)-p-p-? when you overcall in a minor, you can bid 2NT to suggest four hearts plus 5+ of your minor. If you only held the minors, you would bid 3Cs and let partner 'pick' a suit. Regards, Robert 2N is certainly 6♦ and 4♣. I disagree with the other example, though: (1S)-2m-(2S)-P-(P)-?Now, X is m+H; 2N is m+om. when m is significantly better than om, this sequence applies even when m=♦. 3♣ would mean 5-4 or 5-5; 2N again 6-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 6-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Would DBL instead of 2NT show a S tolerance (3-1-5-4) and be penalty oriented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 With 3-1-5-4 I would just bid 2S (unless double denied spades). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted November 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 HOW to show 5D+4c ?did you open 1C with 5c+4d & 11-13HCP? what 3D rebid?7cards ♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 HOW to show 5D+4c ?did you open 1C with 5c+4d & 11-13HCP? what 3D rebid?7cards ♦? The only reason to want to compete with a 5-4 is a lot of strength (19?); your pard has never shown a sign of life.I would re-open with a double, in such a case. With 5♣ and 4♦ i would open 1♦ with all hand weaker than reverse. 3♦ should be 6 strong diamonds. With 7 diamonds i would not have re-bid 2♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted November 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ JT ♥ xx ♦ KQJx ♣ KQJxx WOULD you to compete? regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ JT ♥ xx ♦ KQJx ♣ KQJxx WOULD you to compete? regards No, because I can never expect partner to chose the right minor. Note how much better this hand works if you start with 1♣: You can bid 2♦ over the double, and you are done. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ JT ♥ xx ♦ KQJx ♣ KQJxx WOULD you to compete? regards no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I might bid 3♣ with that hand Also I might open 1♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Hello Kalvan 14 What do you do with a strong 1345 or 1354 if (1S)-2m-(2S)-p-p-X=hearts and the minor? I play that as 1336 1354 1345or 1363 My normal style would be to just double 1S with 13 majors and 54 minors.If you promise 4 hearts to double 1S, you have to overcall a 5m or pass. With 1435 or 1453 why didn't you just double one spade 'if' you have the values to compete at the three level? Squire(bright green cover) book and others suggest using 2NT to show the odd suit. Do you really bid (1S)-2D-(2S)-p-p-3C on a 5D-4C hand? A new 4 card minor suit at the three level and partner has never even 'hinted' at values or a fit? Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000002 Posted November 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 THANKS for your advice The another important associated question: 1♦===1♥===dbl===pass2♣===2♥===pas===passdbl? Is it an intense suggestion for penalty ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 No. I think it could be any shape with 5/4 or 4/5 in the minors. Just showing extras and no other bid available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcvetkov Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Dbl would show a strong hand with some spade tolerance, probably 3-1-5-4, but partner can choose to pass with strong trumps and no safe contract to go or maybe bid 3NT. I would agree that 2nT is for takout and asks partner to choose from 6-4, but I think it needs prior agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Hello Kalvan 14 What do you do with a strong 1345 or 1354 if (1S)-2m-(2S)-p-p-X=hearts and the minor? I play that as 1336 1354 1345or 1363 My normal style would be to just double 1S with 13 majors and 54 minors.If you promise 4 hearts to double 1S, you have to overcall a 5m or pass. With 1435 or 1453 why didn't you just double one spade 'if' you have the values to compete at the three level? Squire(bright green cover) book and others suggest using 2NT to show the odd suit. Do you really bid (1S)-2D-(2S)-p-p-3C on a 5D-4C hand? A new 4 card minor suit at the three level and partner has never even 'hinted' at values or a fit? Regards, Robert Hi, Robert.My style is to double 1♠ with 4♥, if the double is backed by limited strength; the more off-shape it si, the more strong it must be.Therefore i would double 1♠ with 1-3-4-5 with a good 15/+ HCP. However, the quality of the suits plays an obvious role. With x, Jxx, AKQxx, KQJx I would prefer 2♦; with x, AQx, KJxxx, KQJx I would certainly double.Now suppose that I have not that strength, but a good ♦ suit (1-3-5-4). I would prefer to bid 2♦, and when the bid comes back to me at 2♠, to double to show ♣ and tolerance for ♥ (note that if the hand were 1-4-3-5 or 1-4-5-3 i would have no qualm in doubling 1♠).If I were to bid 3♣, it would show a 5-5. Now you may argue that I did not use the unusual NT over 1♠: this would be because my ♦ are significantly stronger than ♣.This frees up 2NT for 6♦ and 4♣. I would not care to compete with 2-2-5-4, unless it were something like xx xx AKJxx AQJx. In which case, i'd use 2NT againDoes it make sense?I will welcome your input.regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 6-4 in minors. Good hand. Doesn't want to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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