Free Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 As South you hold:[hv=d=w&v=e&s=skt9hjdcakqt98765]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv]You were already wondering what to open, and then realise your LHO is dealer. So it starts (natural system, 1♦ promisses 4+♦): 1♦ - pass - 1♥ - ??? How do you handle this hand? Start with cuebids, bid 5♣, walk the dog,...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 5C. This is the wrong time to walk the dog with 1 card in the suits they've bid. Your best bet is just to preempt them, as usual. BTW...what cuebids? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 5♣, time to make them guess Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 What about 6C, at favourable ? I expct it is unlikely pard can produce anything useful, and, if, so, opps are cold for 11 tricks in a suit contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 hello everyone Cuebids=bidding their suits to show various hand types. I like to play natural in the suit bid to my right (1D)-(1H)-2H natural. I like to bid (1D)-(1H)-2D* as an 'off shape' cue bid showing 4 spades and 6-7 clubs. A sandwich NT shows 5-5 shapes and double takes care of 4-4 or 5-4 type shapes. A jump cue bid ask for a stopper for 3NT. I have a solid minor(I also like to use solid hearts for this bid) I walk the dog on this hand. Reese suggests a 4C bid and follow up with 5Cs to 'bluff' them and hoping to get doubled in 5Cs. If I were going to jump, I would bid 5Cs. You might only have one card in the suits that they are bidding, however, you have not seen what cards are in partners' hand. He might not overcall a good 4 card major and so hold four(five?) diamonds plus a good 4 card heart holding. If he is weak he might have 4/5 hearts and 4/5(+) diamonds. Partners' Q8xx KJ9x AQ9xx void may slow down the other pairs slam hopes a tiny bit. Depends on your overcall style. I tend to bid with 8+HCP at the one level with a decent suit. My partner making a face after seeing one of my overcalls might disagree with what he thinks is a 'decent' suit. Do not worry too much about how to bid this hand type. You will not see it very often. Regards, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 This hand with 8.x tricks qualifies for a 6♣ call at these colors (Rule of 2-3-4). Yet, I hate making that call because: 1) You don't want to push them into a making slam, 2) If pard has the nightmare hand with soft red cards, they will have an easy double and -800 looks likely. 5♣ has almost all of the same preemptive juice as 6♣ but it has a little more safety. Walking these hands are for geniuses that I prefer not to have as my partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 >I expct it is unlikely pard can produce anything useful, and, if, so, opps are cold for 11 tricks in a suit contract. I assume pard is long in their fit suit, so it might not be so easy for them to make 11 let alone 12. 11 may have a decent chance but I don't know that its cold. I estimate something like:♦ as 5 - 5 - 3♥ 4 - 4 - 5♠ 3/4 - 3/4 - 4 There is room for each opponent to have 1 club for 1 loser, plus another 1 or 2. Its possible the HCP are roughly divided. Pard could have a useful 7, though he probably has less. The ♠Q and J would be very useful on offense. On defense maybe he has a Q or JQ or K of ♦. Frederick, what were the hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 4♦ because of tactical considerations.opener has now the option of doubling 4♦ instead of bidding 5♦, and pd has the chance to show the heart ace if he has it. He will realize I have a strong hand with clubs looking at his own hand. I think 4♦ gives our side more chances of success than 5♣ specially if playing with a good pd. Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 4♦ because of tactical considerations.opener has now the option of doubling 4♦ instead of bidding 5♦, and pd has the chance to show the heart ace if he has it. He will realize I have a strong hand with clubs looking at his own hand. I think 4♦ gives our side more chances of success than 5♣ specially if playing with a good pd.Luis! When I saw this thread, I immediately thought -- I would be curious what Luis would come up with here. 4♦ is no disappointment, and I like it. ;) Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 2♣ ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=e&n=sq642h9865dq432c2&w=s8753hak43dajt9c4&e=sajhqt72dk8765cj3&s=skt9hjdcakqt98765]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] I bid a systemic 3♦, showing GF with ♣. We ended in 5♣=, good for 74%. The entire auction: 1♦ - pass - 1♥ - 3♦3♥ - pass - 4♥ - 5♣All pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 1 off, but 4♥ makes :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Doesn't 5H make too, guessing diamonds right ? BTW, It seems that 5C makes and is not down 1, if we guess spades (indeed, no need to guess, the J drops automatically under the K at 2nd round of the suit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 :) 5♣ is sensible. 4♦ is brilliant, assuming partner will react in a predicatable way. 3♦ fishing for 3NT just doesn't feel right to me. The other possible bid would be a simple pass. Let's see if the opponents' bidding will help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 5♣, my pd never have the perfect hand for me, and the 1 in a million times they do, the distribution is all wacked. GBB :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 5♦ certainly make and the slow, 3♦ gives them chances to find it... the auction SHOULD have been (when 3♦ was bid)... 1D - P - 1H - 3D3H - P - 4♦,,, An immediate 5♣, however, puts a lot of pressure on EW. Somehow this hands seems like a direct 5♣ bid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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