Guest Jlall Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 red/red BAM. QJTx K9 x KQT98x. Partner opens 1H, 1S on your right, you bid 2C, 2D on your left passed back to you. What's your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Ugly hand. You have the values, but has misfit written all over it and the opps are getting out at a low level. I don't think we particularly want to defend 2♦. I need to know one thing here though, if partner had doubled, what would it have shown? If all suits bid naturally, some would argue penalties. That being the case, I bid 2♥. I want to push them up a bit higher and partner should not take this as too forward going. If partner couldn't double for penalties, then I double as a flexible action asking partner what he wants to do. Leaving them in 2♦ seems bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 X of 2D by pard would be penalty. You cannot pass 2D systemically (and I don't know any system where you could). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I'll try 2♥, should play okay and keeps the bidding low. Usually I prefer to support with support (fit jump or whatever) in competitive auctions, so partner should be able to read this as doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 3NT (or 3D). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 As double would be penalty (in Justin's system) then I think 2♥ is the best option. Even if double was takeout I'd be very nervous of partner passing it and would probably go for 2♥ anyway. One of the better players I know has a principle of making the lowest possible sensible bid in complex situations. This looks a good time to use it. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 a X here by YOUR hand would be cards t/o oriented. Had partner doubled directly over 2D, that would have been penalty (I think that's what Matt was asking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 2H Assuming 2C was forcing, partners pass is forcing,hence I cant pass, even if could, I would not. I take it for granted, that a direct 2S bid, would haveshown primary support, but I am unsure if 2S is justinv.+ (my preference) or game force. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 2♠ would be game forcing, that's sure.My preference would be for a t/o X, with 2♥ a close second.Pard should not be too eager to transform the X into penalty: he had already a chance to double for penalty, and passed it.Pls. note that I'll go for t/o X if we do not play Flannery. Otherwise, no doubt: 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Second vote for 3NT. It makes. I have no idea why, but it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Just thought of something. Not sure how barking mad it is. Are the opponents playing snap-dragon doubles and fit-jumps by advancer? If so, LHO cannot have 2♠ and 5+♦ (X) or 3♠ and 5+♦ (3♦). Then, partner is likely to be 3-5-3-2, 3-5-4-1 or 3-6-3-1. I don't believe he's 3-5-4-1, unless his diamonds are really poor. I guess he could also be 3-5-2-3, but then his clubs are poor. With both balanced holdings, he has a weak NT (assuming you are allowed to open 1NT with a 5 card major). Since lefty doesn't have a fit, I believe him to have 6♦. So diamonds are likely 6-3-3-1 around the table and they've found a good fit. I need to take some action here! The hand is not going to play well in NT unless we have 9 top tricks or partner has a double stop in diamonds. I imagine if he did, he would have bid 2NT over 2♦. So let's rule that out. We have only 7 (potentially 8 in clubs) card fits outside of that and suits are breaking badly. I don't want to push the boat out too far here, but I think we need to push them up a level. I'll stick with 2♥ and hope partner doesn't raise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 If 2♣ was forcing then I cannot pass. I wouln't anyway, but my 3♣ rebid now doesn't show anything but 10-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 I also chose 2H at the table. It went pass pass 3D p p X and we beat them 2. I thought it was close between X, 2H and 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'm betting partner holds: xx, AQJxx, Kxxx, Jx. Bad breaks are headed our way so I pick my long suit and bid 3C - yes, even at BAM. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 2H.This should show some tolerance, not necessarily a huge support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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