Kalvan14 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 In a club MP, playing with a good casual partner, you are S.W opens 1♣ (5-card majors, can be 3 cards). The bidding goes: (1♣)-1♥-(1♠)-2♥[you]-(2♠)-P-(P)-3♥-(P)-4♣ What does 4♣ mean? If you want to know your cards:[hv=d=w&v=e&s=s753hj97dat965ct5]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I would suggest that this is a lead director on the way to 4♥ in the premise that the opponents might be tempted to take a 4♠ save. Clearly it can not be a slam try when he was willing to defend 2♠, and after you have raised his ♥ suit twice, it can't be a suggestion to play in ♣'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I would guess he psyched 1H with long clubs. He passed 2S and its "impossible" for him to bid again, 4H or otherwise. Thus he's exposing his psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 An impossible bid as Justin remarked, but still not a psyche: he wasn't doubled in 3♥ and the opps were relatively timid so partner has values. Whatever he has, he has made a mistake, so I wouldn't worry. I'd bid 4♥ and hope not to get doubled. BTW, your 3♥ bid was awful :D You barely have the values to squeak 2♥: committing to the 3-level on this hand is almost as bad as partner's impossible 4♣ bid, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I would have said exactly the same as mikeh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 An impossible bid as Justin remarked, but still not a psyche: he wasn't doubled in 3♥ and the opps were relatively timid so partner has values. Whatever he has, he has made a mistake, so I wouldn't worry. I'd bid 4♥ and hope not to get doubled. BTW, your 3♥ bid was awful B) You barely have the values to squeak 2♥: committing to the 3-level on this hand is almost as bad as partner's impossible 4♣ bid, imho. Well, as it happened in real life, 4♣ was misinterpreted (Justin came closer to the meaning, and - at least - her action was the correct one, although for the wrong reason). Quite likely it was the wrong bid; certainly it was too much for a casual partnership.[hv=s=s4haqt5d64ckqj932]133|100|[/hv] I had this cards, and I decided to bid upon 1♣ opening at my left. I have enough strength (both in HCP and playing tricks), and if I pass, the next time I will have to bid over 3♠. I am not too shy in interfering with a good 4-bagger at the 1 level.Now, when the bid came back at the 2♠ level, I had nothing to say.My partner decided to compete (I agree with you that it was a horrible bid), and the third time I had a good bid: 4♣. Consider that I had not contested 2♠, and now I am introducing a new suit at the 4 level!! This should indicate that:a) I want to competeB) I may have some feature that made it unpossible to compete at 3 level (but let's be clear: I did not find an A under my chair, and, even if I had psyched, it would be quite silly to pull it out before it gets doubled My partner had bid already 3 times on a collection of tram tickets, and obviously bid once again: 4♥ [which should mean: I don't know what's happening :D ]Since defense is the most difficult part of the game, I made 4♥, for the record.The lead was K♦, and ♥ were 3-3, with the K on-side. To paraphrase a famous saying, the operation was a failure, but the patient was restored to good health :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yes, 4C is wrong because partner will put it back to 4H. Especially as partner won't have very many clubs on this auction. If you say she should have sat for it on this hand, why shouldn't she be void in clubs (and as a result is taking the push to the 3 level). Should she still sit for it with that hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 You wanted to play 4♣? partner's bidding makes it kinda clear he should have 4♥s, why do you want to play on a higher level with worse fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i agree with ben... he wants a club lead if they compete over 4h, but i think it might have been a mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, 4C is wrong because partner will put it back to 4H. Especially as partner won't have very many clubs on this auction. If you say she should have sat for it on this hand, why shouldn't she be void in clubs (and as a result is taking the push to the 3 level). Should she still sit for it with that hand? Partner should take back to 4♥ with 4 trumps. I have no prob with that.but at the table I felt that she might have just 3 cards. Was I wrong?And with 3 cards - even with the miserable hand she brought - 4♣ was a good contract. The problem with many bridge players is that making a bid out of the "standard" practice creates panic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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