Fluffy Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 2. Pass, double would probably make partner lead a ♦, ,but maybe I am wrong. Partner can figure by himself that ♥A won't cash We're on lead.I imagine we're going to lead a top club (anything else strikes me as (over)-inspired). are we? then double, what is the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Why didn't opponent bid 7♠ to make? He can have for example: ♠KQxxx♥x/-♦AKJ109xx♣x/- you will just gamble they don't find the right lead. (PArtner cannot have 2 aces so scientific bids aren't of any use). And why didn't partner meant 7♥ as a sacrifice? He just needs a 8 card ♥ or a 7-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysen2k Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Why the criteria should be so different going from level 1 to level 2? 1) They are much more likely to X you at the 2 level than the 1 level.2) If they X you at the 1 level you're more likely to be able to scramble out successfully since you're a level lower.3) If you overcall light at the 1 level and partner has something like 13 points and support he can cuebid and then raise over your signoff to show that so you can still stop below game. If you overcall at the 2 level you'll just get to game.4) If you overcall at the 1 level on junk and partner bids a new suit it's non forcing so you can still get off the hook. If he does this at the 3 level after you overcall at the 2 level, you're in a forcing auction.5) Third seat is in a much better position to put pressure on partner (if the opening was a preempt), and in close situations he will generally bid. The worst thing about overcalling light is when the auction gets very competitive and the opponents are preempting. I do not see the appeal in overcalling this hand at the 2 level. You have no shape, and 2 jacks, and no aces, but again that is just my style. I respect that others play differently, though I'm mildly surprised by how many would overcall with this hand.All valid points, but if your requirements are too strict to overcall then you will get robbed by preempters. For me I would pass this hand over 2♦, but overcall over 1♦. So my requirements are not exactly the same, but I'm just saying they shouldn't be that different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 All valid points, but if your requirements are too strict to overcall then you will get robbed by preempters. yep, that is the downside and happens occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 All valid points, but if your requirements are too strict to overcall then you will get robbed by preempters. yep, that is the downside and happens occasionally. Well, mine was mostly a rethorical question. I'm pretty well aware of the difference between the 1 and 2 levels :D OTOH, it is a matter of style: I like to get in, and, on the long run, I've not suffered from this flaw.I can understand that other players have different standards; the important thing is to behave in a consistent way. Otherwise poor pard will have to start forking out money to shrinks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hand 1: heck, not vulnerable...got a really good suit, the King of diamonds is well placed...if pard has a good hand, finesses in the round suits will tend to win....So i bid 2 only spades. -- -- 2D 2S 4D 7S all pass Axx AKTxx - AQT9x KQTxx Jxx Kxx Jx Small diamond led...Plan the play.... That's what I get for overcalling 2♠, about 30% of my values in a worthless card.I better make this or I will walking down to the pdship desk looking for a new pd, again...... :) Well, I have to play the ♥ for no losers, that is about 39% and then I still need the ♣ K to come down too or the ♠J to be doubleton, that's about 27%. And of course I have many entree problems too, I wonder why pd would just blast 7♠. Hasn't he played long enough with me to know I really don't have what I am supposed to have to justify my bidding :) I ruff the first trick, hate going down in trick one ;) Play the Ace of♥, and of course the Q doesn't drop, pull trump and take the ♥ finesse.And then later take the ♣ finesse. I think that gives you the best chance. GBB :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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