Mr. Dodgy Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 You are dealer, neither vuln, IMPs. ♠642♥6♦AKT42♣AK73 Opps are silent throughout. 1♦-1♠-2♣-3♦... what do you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 and would you have bid any differently to this point (assume fairly standard methods)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 and would you have bid any differently to this point? no, seems basic novice bidding at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 I wouldn't raise to 2S directly with this hand, so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 No, whilst I'm quite happy to raise on 3, I try to avoid it on 3 small unless I really have no alternative. Here I have quite a straight forward alternative (2C) and besides which, I have actually quite a nice hand, a partial fit, a singleton in an unbid suit and AAKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 3♠ and I find the bidding pretty obvious :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Why 3♠ and not 4♣ (cue bid) with ♦ as trump? Do you know pard has 5♠? Are you looking for 4♠? What about a ♦ slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Obvious 3♠. Even if we are going to a ♦ slam (and at this point I definitely want to keep 4♠ in the picture), patterning out will almost certainly help partner more than a direct cuebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Why 3♠ and not 4♣ (cue bid) with ♦ as trump? As Blofeld pointed out, patterning out will help partner more than anything. I do not even think 4C is a cue, to me it would also be patterning out. IMO controls are overrated, and pattern bidding is underrated. If 4C was a cue, it would not tell partner that the KQJ of spades are very good, while the KQJ of hearts are very bad. For the same reason that splinters are very good slam tools, 3S here will help partner. Do you know pard has 5♠? No, but he might. Are you looking for 4♠? Yes, 4S, 3N, 5D, and 6D are all still in play. While he may not have 5 spades, he might, or he might have a lot of heart wastage making 3N best. Again, 3S is just to describe our hand rather than necessarily "look for a fit." The better the description of our hand is to partner, the more likely he is to get us to the right contract. What about a ♦ slam? Unlikely, but certainly possibile. We will need no heart wastage if one exists, and 3S will clue partner into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 No, whilst I'm quite happy to raise on 3, I try to avoid it on 3 small unless I really have no alternative. Here I have quite a straight forward alternative (2C) and besides which, I have actually quite a nice hand, a partial fit, a singleton in an unbid suit and AAKK I must disagree. I would bid the hand the same way, because it is too strong for 2♠. But make the diamonds KQxxx and the hand is a perfect 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 3♠, now my pd knows I have 3-1-5-4 hand. And he can make decision from here on. 4♠ might even play better in 4-3 fit then 5♦ would. GBB :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvan14 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 4♥: sorry, guys. I like splinters, and once again this helps a lot in the hand pattern (in particular to look for a possible ♦ slam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 No, whilst I'm quite happy to raise on 3, I try to avoid it on 3 small unless I really have no alternative. Here I have quite a straight forward alternative (2C) and besides which, I have actually quite a nice hand, a partial fit, a singleton in an unbid suit and AAKK I must disagree. I would bid the hand the same way, because it is too strong for 2♠. But make the diamonds KQxxx and the hand is a perfect 2♠. Yep, that's what I thought when I read this too. I agree with the 3S bid and the reasons for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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