Al_U_Card Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=s97xxxhaxdakqxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♣-1♥-???[/hv] Suggestions? LHO will bid 2H if he can...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Double. I'm going to treat the spade suit as 4 cards, and bid diamonds if pd doesn't bite. I will bid 3NT if I need to. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 For me, doubling and then bidding ♦ would deny this much strength: if I doubled, LHO bid 2♥, and it went pass pass to me, 3♦ would not be forcing. So I have to bid: and I see no reason to distort my hand, so I begin with 2♦, and if 2♥ gets passed to me, my natural 2♠ bid is forcing, showing 4+♠ and longer ♦: looks like what I have ;) Another bad hand for negative free-bids: you double and LHO bids 3♥ (weak) and it goes pass pass to you: how can you describe a gf 2-suiter now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I can't imagine anything else but 2♦ immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I bid diamonds then spades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 2D for me too. It may be that I never get to show 5 spades, not a big problem., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 The bidding continues....2D :D by you-2H :D -Dbl ;) by pard-p-???, where to now, pilgrim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 What is X? Whatever it is I guess I'll bid 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 What is X? No agreement, playing basic sayc with a pard of unknown "expert"ise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 2♠: still bidding my hand With no agreement about the double, I assume partner has short ♦ and hence even 6♠ is still reachable. I certainly do not pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Over a 1m opener, with my pard we have recently switched to: 1. xfer response after overcalls of 1 of a suit: these allow to raise with a bad hand and with a good hand; so we do not need the cue for raising opener's minor 2. NFB at the 2-level; X include classical neg X and GF hands without a selfsufficient suit; 3. cuebid is "Michaels" = 55 or better in the remaining 2 suits, invitational+ ==================== This hand fits well with the scheme: I would cue showing the unbid 2 suits. Sorry, I know this is not a thread on methods, I apologize in advance :-)Without these agreements I'd show diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Another bad hand for negative free-bids: you double and LHO bids 3♥ (weak) and it goes pass pass to you: how can you describe a gf 2-suiter now? why not shoot 3NT? yeah i'd like another diamond but i don't have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Without NFB, 2♦, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 2♦ simple forcing , and will bid my ♠ after that. GBB :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Over a 1m opener, with my pard we have recently switched to: 1. xfer response after overcalls of 1 of a suit: these allow to raise with a bad hand and with a good hand; so we do not need the cue for raising opener's minor 2. NFB at the 2-level; X include classical neg X and GF hands without a selfsufficient suit; 3. cuebid is "Michaels" = 55 or better in the remaining 2 suits, invitational+ ==================== This hand fits well with the scheme: I would cue showing the unbid 2 suits. Sorry, I know this is not a thread on methods, I apologize in advance :-)Without these agreements I'd show diamonds. Hi Mauro Can you clarify this for me? 1. Transfers - Is this just at the one-level? Does it include 1NT? Do you pass with natural 1NT hands? 1♣ (1♦) ... 1♥ = spades 1♠ = hearts 1NT = good club raise 2♣ = weak club raise 2♦ = five-five 1♣ (1♥) ... 1♠ = diamonds? 1NT = good club raise 2♣ = weak club raise 2♦ = NFB 2♥ = 5/5 I don't quite follow what you mean. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Hi Mauro Can you clarify this for me? Hi Wayne :-) 1. Transfers - Is this just at the one-level? No, natural 1 of a suit is natural.Xfer starts with 1NT and end with the suit below opener's suit. Does it include 1NT? Yes, actually it STARTS with 1NT. Do you pass with natural 1NT hands? Yes and no. The bottom range of such hands shall pass, the top range can use a negative double or invite with 2NT. More or less the scheme you wrote down is what we play, exceopt that our xfers start at the 1NT level and higher and do not apply to out 1-of-a-suit responses E.g.: 1♣-(DBL/ 1y)....1 of a suit: natural, 4+ card, forcing 1R....1NT: good raise of ♣ (inverted minors style)....2♣= bad raise....cuebid = 55+ inv+ in unbuid suits.... 2 of a suit = NFB (if jump to 2M, it's a weakish jump = about 9 losers, 6+ card suiit, but not totally preemptive).... DBL = negative double, includes ............a. classical neg X hands............b. the top range of what would be a natural 1NT response (good 9 up to 11). With a natural 1NT response of 6-8 hcp, we pass............c. "normal" GF hands with a 5+ not selfsufficient suit .... 3 of a suit = strong JS, self sufficient suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Double to me. If 2♦ is forcing then 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 [hv=s=skxxxhjxxdcakjxxx]133|100|[/hv] No matter what it was for, I decided that 4S or 5D was the least we should settle for, so I bid 4S, duly passed out, making four on the lay of the cards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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