plaur Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sj10965432h2dq82c9]133|100|Scoring: MP1♥ - your bid[/hv] Local pairs, vul vs not. RHO opens 1♥. What do you bid and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 3S...wimpy with 8-3 but I'm red/white so won't bid 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 3S, red versus white, but it is alsoone of the most effective preempts. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 3♠ is fine. Pard can take the push with the toppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Indeed, if partner has KQx then she will expect extra length in our hand at these colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 4♠. I've been trying to talk myself out of this bid, but I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 1S. Overcalling with a yarborough and eight spades, I would go "passive" and mess with the auction. If the opponents buy the contract, they will play the hand wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 1S. Overcalling with a yarborough and eight spades, I would go "passive" and mess with the auction. If the opponents buy the contract, they will play the hand wrong. Perhaps, and they'll probably be doubled by pard expecting more high cards and less spades. Maybe my subterfuge causes them to give up the overtrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 1S. Overcalling with a yarborough and eight spades, I would go "passive" and mess with the auction. If the opponents buy the contract, they will play the hand wrong. No wonder your pd's always think you have a different hand then you project during the bidding ;) 3♠ for me. GBB :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 3♠ with this vulnerability, otherwise I might go for an immediate 5♠ :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 There's a rule I quite like for deciding how high to pre-empt.Bid to the level where you don't know what you hope the opponents will do. If I bid 2S and get doubled, I'll be pleased (at least until I see dummy).If I bid 4S and get doubled, I'll be very nervous.If I bid 3S and get doubled, I won't know what to think. So I bid 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Wimpy? moi? All of pard's heart cards will be wrong and with 2 stiffs I really want to get in there but down 4 doubled in 3S seems like too much of a position when the opps are white so....I can't pass so I choose the even more despicable 2S..blech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Additional question:I you bid 4S can your partner expect 1 trick from you if he doubles 5H?A couple of weeks ago we had a hand in our club - playing MP's - with 8 card H (T9...) and 0 points as dealer. The players who opened 3H or 4H got a bad result because opps would end up in 4S or 5S doubled by partner and made. Maybe you partner should not expect any trick (not even 1/2 trick) from you if you preempt to 3/4 level? But will he not...and DBL certainly at MP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 A couple of weeks ago we had a hand in our club - playing MP's - with 8 card H (T9...) and 0 points as dealer. The players who opened 3H or 4H got a bad result because opps would end up in 4S or 5S doubled by partner and made. Perhaps that's an argument for opening 5♥ on that hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 I don't see why partner should expect a trick from a 4S bid. Isn't KQJeigth with 8-4 a normal 4S bid? Or a 9 card suit? etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Pass. Sometimes you don't have a bid to describe your hand. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 3♠ is fine. Pard can take the push with the toppers. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Additional question:I you bid 4S can your partner expect 1 trick from you if he doubles 5H? No, add the Queen of spades and 4S stands out at this vulnerability, but you dont have a trick for partner. If he doubles, he does this it on his own. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Indeed, if partner has KQx then she will expect extra length in our hand at these colors Hi, its irrelevant, what partner can expect,partner will / should raise with KQ tightor K / Q + another trick (Ace or KQ combination). Opener does not hold those cards, i.e. will expectto loose those tricks.You cover those looser, raise. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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