Jurek S Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 You can't say "sorry gtg" or anything like that. You have ♠xx, ♥AKTx, ♦AJ9x, ♣Jxx Bidding: 1♦(by you) - 2♣ - 2♠ - pass ? B) Please, do not try to covince me to 4 card major or weak NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi, assuming 2S is forcing, else there is no problem,you have to bid 3S, because no other bid is remotely more attractive. Because you only have one choice, this hand is not a nightmare, just accept fate and march on. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I bid 3♣ : no clear direction and in that particular auction this shows no extra ! Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 3S. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I'd bid 2NT, expecting to play in 4♠ whenever partner has 6 spades. If partner has 5 spades and no club stop, then playing in spades will be no fun anyway. Of course the ideal bid is double, but for some reason BBO does not permit this B) Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I really don't see what you can do on this hand except bid 3H. This is not the same bid as it would be after 1D-1S-2H/3H. Cue bid sounds too strongly like spade support and 3S is too unilateral a decision. 2N is out with no stopper, so we are down to 3D or 3H. Partner has to realize he has forced you to bid so shouldn't get too excited about this "reverse", and hearts may be the suit he needs to hear about in order to bid 3N. 3H seems the most flexible as it leaves all the possible games in reach. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Cue bid sounds too strongly like spade support If I have support I will bid it. I think this is more simple and effective B) Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 3S. 3C could be any number of hands, but it certainly creates a GF so that is out for me. 3H also creates a GF, and is usually not based on a balanced hand type (though it could be if you were concentrated as here with more values) so that is out for me. 3S has the merit of being NF, but is off by a trump. Ah well, least of evils imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Forgot to mention 2N. Has a lot going for it as it describes my hand very well, unfortunately I only have a partial club stopper. Still, Jxx often catches some help or a blocked suit. I still wouldn't try it as it could go terribly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Please, do not try to covince me to 4 card major or weak NT. Of course you WOULD know what to bid playing 4-card majors on the auction: 1♥ 2♣ 2♠ pass After 3♦ partner will think you have 5♥ and bid accordingly. Playing weak NT you would just have the same problem but with an added ♠Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 2NT. It doesn't promise a club stopper in my methods, merely a description of my hand pattern with a doubleton spade. If responder is strong enough to bid on, he can ask about my notrump seriousness by rebidding 3♣. Then we still have plenty of room to investigate. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 3♠ with 2 NT close second. If it is in well established pdship I would bid 2 NT, showing the shape but not always a ♣ stopper. In all other cases 3♠. GBB :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Chthonic, the bridge playing robot, maintains that Jxx is a better stop than Qxx on this type of auction - for more illumination you will need to read the book he appears to have commissioned - "The Principle of Restricted Talent and other stories" by: Danny Kleinman & Nick Straguzzi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurek S Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 2NT. It doesn't promise a club stopper in my methods Nice device. But not in standard SAYC or 2/1.However I'd prefer this to 3♠ - imo it's better to pretend that you have Q9x in ♣ than to tell your partner that you have a true support in his suit with 2 small. Jurek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 2N: a stopper is as strong as you make it sound :) Not really, of course. But this bid looks like the least distortion, and partner is still there. If you must make a misdescriptive bid, make it as cheaply as possible; which maximizes the bidding space in which the partnership can move to safer ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Easiest bid of my life: 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 2N. Its usually a 100 in Master Solver's, so I'm sure there's a good reason for it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Which is the lesser lie? :) 3S pretty much promising 3S cards or 2NT possibly with a C stopper or 3C which Justin says is a GF? :) When pard bid 2S he did promise a rebid, did he not? If he rebids 3S to deny a Club stop would you not be able to pass (not too too anti-partnership, you were stuck!) and if he bids 3NT then its probably right.... iow I really want to bid 3C...."getting ready to duck" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 2NT. This may lead to an accident but I think that it is the right bid so I will make it even when undiscussed. I'm not at all convinced that spades is the best strain, and if notrump is best it is likely better from our side. I'm rooting for partner to have Ax in clubs. 2NT also keeps 3D as a possible place to play, as well as 3S, 3NT and 4S. I think that the only alternative is 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I think that the only alternative is 3S. 3S, except when partner passes or bids game holding 4 H cards and 11 hcp..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I think that the only alternative is 3S. 3S, except when partner passes or bids game holding 4 H cards and 11 hcp..... In which case pard misbid with 2♣ by not making a neg x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 You can't say "sorry gtg" or anything like that. You have ♠xx, ♥AKTx, ♦AJ9x, ♣Jxx Bidding: 1♦(by you) - 2♣ - 2♠ - pass ? :lol: Please, do not try to covince me to 4 card major or weak NT. easy 2nt to me, you don't commit to 3NT yet and partner still can check for club stopper at three level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 I would bid 2NT, but then I play too much MP after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 2NT. It doesn't promise a club stopper in my methods, merely a description of my hand pattern with a doubleton spade. If responder is strong enough to bid on, he can ask about my notrump seriousness by rebidding 3♣. Then we still have plenty of room to investigate. Roland I would be happy if my agreements stated if 2♠ was forcing or not, if I had agreed I am pretty sure my agreements woul stop exactly on the 2♠ bid :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 3♣Almost everybody who voted against it ,have done so because it sounds like GF.Well, it is P who created the GF by bidding 2 ♠, not me.So tell him "I don't have ♣ stopper ,I don't have 3 cards ♠,I don't have 5 cards ♦,I dont have a stronger than promised opening,I have almosr certainly 4 card ♥" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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